Rangers staff risk stoking sectarianism hints Glasgow council boss Susan Aitken

[Scott7 6,008]

9 hours ago, JohnMc said:

If anyone wanted to understand why we're voiceless and powerless in our own city a read of this thread is instructive. What started as frustration around a fanzone has morphed into angry white men yelling 'brexit' into the void whilst dreaming of rimming Boris Johnston. No wonder Tims run rings round us politically. 

There’s something wrong with being white?

[JohnMc 2,754]

39 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

There’s something wrong with being white?

That's what you took from that post? Brilliant. 

[Bill 13,717]

16 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

That's what you took from that post? Brilliant. 

You're the one who mentioned white men, there must have been a reason. How about this version instead ....

 

If anyone wanted to understand why we're voiceless and powerless in our own city a read of this thread is instructive. What started as frustration around a fanzone has morphed into angry black men yelling 'slavery' into the void whilst dreaming of rimming Jeremy Corbyn. No wonder Muslims run rings round us politically.

 

[Darthter 542]

9 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

Celtc minded people decided to make a beeline for public office a few decades ago and have been rather successful.  Rangers fans tend to be less focused in such matters and this is quite apparent wherever you look in politics and the press.

 

All we can do is encourage the next generation of Bears to educate themselves, get more involved and to continually pull them (yahoos in public office) up when they demonstrate their agenda.

Why is that???

 

One major positive that the Independence referendum in 2014 had, was that interest in politics took a massive jump.  More folk are talking about what's going on & who's doing what.  Looks at the political discussions on here recently....I would bet that none of these would have taken place pre-2014.  Questioning & watching the politicians is a good thing....that is why there have been soooo many scandals etc uncovered in the past few years - folk are asking questions.

[ian1964 10,724]

Club 1872 take further action over Susan Aitken and David McDonald

 

4 September, 2018

Following the disingenuous and irresponsible behaviour of Glasgow City Councillors, Susan Aitken and David McDonald over the past few days, Club 1872 has been left with no option but to report them, along with Councillor Stephen Dornan, to the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland.

Despite finding the time to construct a letter to Rangers which was littered with inaccuracies, immediately leaking that letter to the press and then posting carefully selected confidential emails including private information on social media, neither Susan Aitken nor David McDonald have managed to respond to simple questions from Rangers, Club 1872, MSPs, fellow councillors, the general public or indeed their own constituents.

Incredibly, despite David McDonald publishing these emails and Susan Aitken confirming in her leaked letter that she had been briefed on the Fanzone proposal, Glasgow City Council has replied to our FOI request claiming they do not hold a single piece of information on this matter. We have immediately asked for a review of this response and if necessary will then refer our request to the Scottish Information Commissioner.

It comes as little surprise to us to see the pair attempt to characterise the wish for transparency and accountability as sectarianism. Playing this card is the go-to move for anyone who is taken to task over their own questionable actions towards our club and supporters. Doing so immediately ahead of an Old Firm game was beneath contempt.

Given the array of political views, religions and football allegiances represented by those who have publicly questioned them, their tactics in this instance can only be categorised as a desperate attempt to deflect from the simple issue here. Why did they intervene, outside of due process, to instruct Glasgow Life to remove their consent to use the Ibrox Complex pitch for a match day Fanzone?

The issue of the objections by Stephen Dornan and the Ibrox and Cessnock Community Council is a complete red herring. The correct forum for these objections to be considered was the licensing hearing. We do not believe that the objections had any merit – and in the case of the community council were lodged due to misinformation provided by Stephen Dornan – but the place to address them was the hearing, where Rangers would have had the opportunity to respond directly to any concerns. This hearing was stopped only because of the intervention of the Council Leader and her deputy.

There is nothing in the emails leaked by David McDonald, which pre-date the incident in question by over 2 weeks, that disproves what we know to have happened. Their tactic of trying to muddy the waters by releasing carefully selected emails, whilst FOI requests are refused, is a clear attempt to mislead the public as to their role in this matter. We will not breach confidentiality by posting emails on the internet but for the avoidance of doubt there is clear, documentary evidence that they intervened.

We look forward to the truth of this matter emerging after a thorough investigation into these councillors and the receipt of FOI material so far denied to us.

http://club1872.co.uk/news/club-1872-take-further-action-over-susan-aitken-and-david-mcdonald/

 

Edited September 4, 2018 by ian1964

[Darthter 542]

6 minutes ago, ian1964 said:

Club 1872 take further action over Susan Aitken and David McDonald

http://club1872.co.uk/news/club-1872-take-further-action-over-susan-aitken-and-david-mcdonald/

 

The correct course of action.

 

No use people moaning about things online, in forums etc.  If there appears to be a grievance, pursue the proper channels.

[ian1964 10,724]

26 minutes ago, Darthter said:

The correct course of action.

 

No use people moaning about things online, in forums etc.  If there appears to be a grievance, pursue the proper channels.

Agreed!. More good work from club1872, well done.

[Soulsonic5791 408]

Beat me to it Ian.

 

If that isn't calling out politicking, I don't know what is.

 

Good on Club1872.

[Bill 13,717]

This is what Club1872 should be for. Direct action on behalf of its members. Good to see.  I wonder how much pressure could be brought to bear on GCC for a million quid?

[Gonzo79 15,294]

3 hours ago, Darthter said:

Why is that???

No party represents us.   And we have jobs and families etc.