Big Jaws 570 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Did someone, sorry can't remember who, not post on these forums a few weeks ago that the same 7-8 managers had been floating around the top of the Championship and lower EPL clubs being recycled over and over again for the last couple of years? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Big Jaws said: Did someone, sorry can't remember who, not post on these forums a few weeks ago that the same 7-8 managers had been floating around the top of the Championship and lower EPL clubs being recycled over and over again for the last couple of years? Possibly me? It's a well known fact. It's a testament to how poor English football is outwith the top 6. The same crap teams keep employing the same crap managers. If mid to lower clubs in Italy, Spain, Germany etc had the funds England do, they'd be lighting hell on fire. This says it all: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/01/qpr-higher-wage-bill-than-atletico-madrid Edited May 17, 2018 by Ser Barristan Selmy 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMAA 3,658 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 17/05/2018 at 01:04, Ser Barristan Selmy said: Possibly me? It's a well known fact. It's a testament to how poor English football is outwith the top 6. The same crap teams keep employing the same crap managers. If mid to lower clubs in Italy, Spain, Germany etc had the funds England do, they'd be lighting hell on fire. This says it all: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/01/qpr-higher-wage-bill-than-atletico-madrid It’s still very harsh to include Allardyce in this. He’s been a success at pretty much every club he’s been at bar Newcastle. And he’s proven time and time again that he is almost peerless when it comes to improving the defensive performance of his sides. He took over Blackburn, Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Sunderland and Everton half way through a season where all had struggled to keep a clean sheet and were in the relegation places. In each season he saved them and kept loads of clean sheets in the process. He also steered Blackburn, Everton and West Ham to top half finishes from those weak positions. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) It's worth considering that these recycling managers are probably doing something that the managers of the top six couldn't do without the vast funds at their disposal. Horses for courses? Edited May 19, 2018 by Bill 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 On 19/05/2018 at 13:26, DMAA said: It’s still very harsh to include Allardyce in this. He’s been a success at pretty much every club he’s been at bar Newcastle. And he’s proven time and time again that he is almost peerless when it comes to improving the defensive performance of his sides. He took over Blackburn, Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Sunderland and Everton half way through a season where all had struggled to keep a clean sheet and were in the relegation places. In each season he saved them and kept loads of clean sheets in the process. He also steered Blackburn, Everton and West Ham to top half finishes from those weak positions. If Allardyce is so good it's a wonder Arsenal, Chelsea etc haven't been looking at him. The mediocre clubs he coaches are his level. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 On 19/05/2018 at 13:58, Bill said: It's worth considering that these recycling managers are probably doing something that the managers of the top six couldn't do without the vast funds at their disposal. Horses for courses? All Alan Pardew needs is a crack at the top with City. Perhaps Moyes could get a go with Man Utd...oh wait. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMAA 3,658 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ser Barristan Selmy said: If Allardyce is so good it's a wonder Arsenal, Chelsea etc haven't been looking at him. The mediocre clubs he coaches are his level. They’re not exactly in the lookout for a manager who specialises in defence. He’s quality at what he does, he’s just not mediocre. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 5,960 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) Lest we forget: Allardyce was mananger of England; a post he lost due to well publicised indiscretion, with, if memory serves, drink involved, a different poisoned chalice from that expected. Edited May 22, 2018 by Uilleam 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, DMAA said: They’re not exactly in the lookout for a manager who specialises in defence. He’s quality at what he does, he’s just not mediocre. That's complete nonsense. Are you actually being serious here? Edited May 22, 2018 by Ser Barristan Selmy 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Uilleam said: Lest we forget: Allardyce was mananger of England; a post he lost due to well publicised indiscretion, with, if memory serves, drink involved, a different poisoned chalice from that expected. Closely followed by Gareth Southgate. It's safe to say that managing England doesn't count for anything anymore. Edited May 22, 2018 by Ser Barristan Selmy 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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