The Summer 2018 Transfer Window Rumours and Deals

[Rousseau 10,602]

15 minutes ago, pete said:

i prefer a keeper that does not have double sided sticking tape on his boots.

I prefer a 'keeper that is actually effective.  

 

Alnwick concedes over 2 goals a game, with only 1 clean sheet (5 games).

 

Foderingham conceded around 1 goal per game, and has 10 clean sheets (33 games). 

[der Berliner 3,744]

1 hour ago, Rousseau said:

I prefer a 'keeper that is actually effective.  

 

Alnwick concedes over 2 goals a game, with only 1 clean sheet (5 games).

 

Foderingham conceded around 1 goal per game, and has 10 clean sheets (33 games). 

 

That's when stats are nigh worthless number-games, i.e. missing the context. In Alnwick's case it would be: where, when, alongside which defenders and against whom did he concede these goals. There and then it becomes comparable to Wes' stats.

 

For reference:

League Cup (3 games) - 6-0; 3-1; 0-2

 

SFA Cup (3 games out of 4) 3-0; 6-1; 4-1  ... benched for the 4-0 reversal by the Scum

 

League (5 games; all post-split) 2-1 (Hearts at home); 0-5 (Scum away, where he kept that scoreline at that); 1-0 (Killie at home); 1-1 (Aberdeen away); 5-5 (Hibs away)

 

Let's check Wes against these opponents and the same venue:

Hearts at home - 0-0; 2-0 (away: 3-1)

Scum away - 0-0 (home: 0-2; 2-3)

Killie at home - 1-1; 0-1 (away: 1-1; 1-2)

Aberdeen away - 2-1 (home: 2-0; 3-0)

Hibs away - 2-1 (Home: 2-3, 1-2)

 

... and not counting the defence in front of either Wes and Jak, who will have made a difference as well. Just talking numbers would see us ending up like saying how grand Windass' goal and assist rate is, forgetting his overall play entirely.

 

 

[Gonzo79 15,292]

Stats are only half the story.  What people do off the ball is just as important.  Players using their intelligence is also very important.  Neither of these things is picked up by statisticians.  

 

McCrorie's positioning could stop opposition players making 15 cutting passes in a match.  Murphy's positioning could take an opposing defender out of position 10 times in a match.  

 

It's a simple game with many, many complexities and statistics only cover a few of those.

[ian1964 10,721]

 

[pete 2,499]

2 hours ago, Rousseau said:

I prefer a 'keeper that is actually effective.  

 

Alnwick concedes over 2 goals a game, with only 1 clean sheet (5 games).

 

Foderingham conceded around 1 goal per game, and has 10 clean sheets (33 games). 

So all that is the keepers fault? Give us a break, you can twist stats anyway you want but your scraping the barrel now.

[Rousseau 10,602]

19 minutes ago, pete said:

So all that is the keepers fault? Give us a break, you can twist stats anyway you want but your scraping the barrel now.

Scraping the barrel? It's just an opinion, based on a few stats. It's not the whole picture, but it's better than what you're basing your opinion on. 

 

Anyway, I'm done with this. We can agree to disagree.  

[Uilleam 5,929]

There is a rumour -no more than that- suggesting Wes Foderingham will be off for c£2.5M.

Maybe Ipswich Town....

[Rousseau 10,602]

1 hour ago, der Berliner said:

 

That's when stats are nigh worthless number-games, i.e. missing the context. In Alnwick's case it would be: where, when, alongside which defenders and against whom did he concede these goals. There and then it becomes comparable to Wes' stats.

 

For reference:

League Cup (3 games) - 6-0; 3-1; 0-2

 

SFA Cup (3 games out of 4) 3-0; 6-1; 4-1  ... benched for the 4-0 reversal by the Scum

 

League (5 games; all post-split) 2-1 (Hearts at home); 0-5 (Scum away, where he kept that scoreline at that); 1-0 (Killie at home); 1-1 (Aberdeen away); 5-5 (Hibs away)

 

Let's check Wes against these opponents and the same venue:

Hearts at home - 0-0; 2-0 (away: 3-1)

Scum away - 0-0 (home: 0-2; 2-3)

Killie at home - 1-1; 0-1 (away: 1-1; 1-2)

Aberdeen away - 2-1 (home: 2-0; 3-0)

Hibs away - 2-1 (Home: 2-3, 1-2)

 

... and not counting the defence in front of either Wes and Jak, who will have made a difference as well. Just talking numbers would see us ending up like saying how grand Windass' goal and assist rate is, forgetting his overall play entirely.

 

 

Yes, stats over a game or two is meaningless, but over the course of a season they show patterns. 

 

That's quite a good comparison. 

[ian1964 10,721]

Rangers are working hard to lure in two young attacking players, according to the latest transfer rumours.

 

The first is Roma forward Umar Sadiq, who is close to sealing a loan switch to Ibrox after being dropped from the Italian's club's pre-season squad, reports the Scottish Sun. The 21-year-old spent the second half of last seasosn on loan at NAC Breda in the Eredivisie, in which he netted five goals.

The second recruit the Gers are reportedly working to bring in is Peterborough winger Gwion Edwards. Football Insider claims that the club are keen to sign the 25-year-old on a pre-contract agreement in January as his contract expires next summer. The reports says that the Gers are already working on a move for the Welshman who spent two loan spells at St Johnstone between 2012 and 2014.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/scottish/rangers-close-in-on-young-attacking-duo-as-celtic-ready-to-fight-for-top-target-old-firm-transfer-rumours-37090514.html

[the gunslinger 3,366]

Wes is much better