Graeme Murty 'relieved of his duties' as Rangers manager

[buster. 5,260]

21 minutes ago, Dragonfly Trumpeter said:

Okay, so a hand picked, massive, 9 game run in a season - aside from Killie and Dundee - and we are virtual, extrpolated league winners with Murty as the man.  Good we avoided the mighty Killie in that pre-extrapolation 9 games btw.  

 

Unfortunately, we have to play a 38 game season, no hand picking or extrapolation allowed, and the buggers count the score in all of them all.   

 

Title winning form from Murty indeed, hilarious if it was not so sad. 

It was a decent run but quite apart from the levels of technical ability, there was and is an inherent fragility about this squad, the management team and the 'connection' between the two groups.

 

 

[Darthter 542]

1 hour ago, Dragonfly Trumpeter said:

Okay, so a hand picked, massive, 9 game run in a season

that 9-game run equates to 24% of the season....which is a significant percentage.

[craig 5,199]

12 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

27th December Rangers 2 - Motherwell 0
30th December Celtic 0 - Rangers 0

WINTER BREAK

24th January Rangers 2 - Aberdeen 0
28th January Ross county 1 - Rangers 2
3rd February Rangers 1 - Hibs 2
6th February Partick 0 - rangers 2
18th February Hamilton 3 - Rangers 5
24th February Rangers 2 - Hearts 0
27th February St Johnstone 1 - Rangers 4

 

Nine consecutive matches in which we played everyone in the league aside from Kilmarnock and Dundee. In those 9 matches 7 wins 1 draw 1 defeat taking 22 from a possible 27 points for an average of 2.44 points per game. 

 

Extrapolate that 2.44 points per game over the current 35 games played and we would be on 85 points and be champions if we take 3 points on Saturday.  That's the best run we have had since returning to the SPL and as pointed out is title winning form if maintained over a season.

 

 

He didn't take over on December 27th though.  Deary me, are we really resorting to hand-picked data to prove our points - how about just running the stats for his full period in charge ?

 

Talk about using statistics to prove your point....

[craig 5,199]

3 hours ago, der Berliner said:

 

You have a curious way to spin your arguments. All that was said that Murty had a steady run ahead of the OF game. No-one is actually saying he's THE man for the job. No-one could have predicted the fallout after the Ibrox OF game though.

 

Except it wasn't DT that spun any argument, it was JFK who hand-selected games that fit the narrative.  You have it all the wrong way round dB.

[craig 5,199]

1 hour ago, Darthter said:

that 9-game run equates to 24% of the season....which is a significant percentage.

But you don't get to select your "best 9 from 38" - or in Murty's case his best 9 from however many games he managed. 

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1 hour ago, craig said:

He didn't take over on December 27th though.  Deary me, are we really resorting to hand-picked data to prove our points - how about just running the stats for his full period in charge ?

 

Talk about using statistics to prove your point....

I'm not blowing a trumpet for Murty in any fashion.  And I didn't 'hand pick' games I looked at a run of consecutive matches which involved almost the entire league.

 

My interest in those games is it was a good run of consecutive matches which demonstrated that even the current squad should be capable of a minimum runaway second place and running the title close.

 

That's encouraging since it might suggest that if Gerrard actually is being given significant funds he doesn't have to spread it thinly so to speak with a wholesale gutting of the squad.  Just a few high quality players may do the trick if he can get this current batch who clearly can do the job when they're up for it playing.

 

And as was intimated in another post if not for that run we would likely be out of contention for any Euro spot far less second place.

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3 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

 

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[craig 5,199]

12 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

I'm not blowing a trumpet for Murty in any fashion.  And I didn't 'hand pick' games I looked at a run of consecutive matches which involved almost the entire league.

 

My interest in those games is it was a good run of consecutive matches which demonstrated that even the current squad should be capable of a minimum runaway second place and running the title close.

 

That's encouraging since it might suggest that if Gerrard actually is being given significant funds he doesn't have to spread it thinly so to speak with a wholesale gutting of the squad.  Just a few high quality players may do the trick if he can get this current batch who clearly can do the job when they're up for it playing.

 

And as was intimated in another post if not for that run we would likely be out of contention for any Euro spot far less second place.

How can you say that you didn't hand pick games when you selected a particular set of games which coincided with Murty's best run in his 2nd interim period ?  Of course they are hand-picked.  And to justify it with "they involved almost the entire league" is futile too, because the league isn't decided in your best 9 games.

 

My interest in Murty's reign would be how did he do over his entire reign, given that it was during the same season.

 

You keep saying that the current squad should be capable of runaway second place, should being the operative word.  The reality is far different.  As said already, you don't get to select your best 25% of games and extrapolate them across the season, so it is just a ridiculous statistic to use.  The reality is that this team is in 3rd, with Hibs breathing down its neck - it doesn't have the consistency over 38 games to be "runaway second" which is why hand-picking 25% of the games is pointless.

[Rousseau 10,823]

As bad a season as it's been, we're 'only' 10-15 points off them. It's went off the rails recently, but if we can just beat more of the diddy teams and at least avoid defeats against them, then we're not too far off them. Most of the dropped points were at Ibrox. 

 

I don't think we require wholesale changes. 

[craig 5,199]

12 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

As bad a season as it's been, we're 'only' 10-15 points off them. It's went off the rails recently, but if we can just beat more of the diddy teams and at least avoid defeats against them, then we're not too far off them. Most of the dropped points were at Ibrox. 

 

I don't think we require wholesale changes. 

Too many players are mentally weak.  We need a number of changes.  The easiest thing to do is ask who you would keep and whether they would be good enough to challenge.  Not many would pass muster unfortunately.