Gonzo79 15,299 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 PR obviously isn't your strong point, Darther. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said: PR obviously isn't your strong point, Darther. Maybe not PR....but common sense & an understanding of the English language are pretty high on the list. Also, the ability to read between the lines & accept that there may be multiple meanings behind a simple statement. There is enough folk outwith our fanbase who will happily pick apart & scrutinise EVERY word that is said....leave them to it. Edited April 19, 2018 by Darthter 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,299 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Giving ammunition to those who hate you is not very bright, regardless of multiple meanings. Couldn't and Wouldn't mean different things at face value. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Gonzo79 said: Giving ammunition to those who hate you is not very bright, regardless of multiple meanings. Couldn't and Wouldn't mean different things at face value. but in this context, they mean exactly the same thing, namely there are factors (which weren't disclosed) that prevented the club matching (or improving) Hamburgs offer. The club couldn't match the offer cause the didn't thing the player was worth it! or The club wouldn't match the offer cause the didn't thing the player was worth it! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,299 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 At the end of the day, his comment makes our club look weak, regardless of any over-analysis or understanding of the English language. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: At the end of the day, his comment makes our club look weak, regardless of any over-analysis or understanding of the English language. Nothing wrong with the comment....the over analysis of every word by our OWN fans & the constant belittling of our manager, make us look weak. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMc 2,801 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 57 minutes ago, craig said: All that aside, the grim reality is that they still operate under Employment Law, the same as any other employee of any other company. If Miller and Wallace were showing subordination then the Club had every right, almost an obligation actually, to take the action they did. You are trying to defend their actions based on the specificity of how they got to where they are - there is nothing in Employment Law which says you can act in a subordinate manner just because you were scouted in primary school or get paid tons of money. The point Darthter is making, correctly, is that these two individuals, regardless of profession, wage, or standing - are employees of an entity which gives them both the protection and the obligation to operate under employment law, just like you, Darther or myself. Debating how they got there is irrelevant - they are still employees governed by the same legislation as the rest of us. What are you talking about Craig? What has this got to do with Miller and Wallace?? You're taking my reply to Darther and extrapolating it into completely different threads. At 13.03 yesterday Darther made a post directed at me that I felt was total nonsense. He suggested my work situation was similar to that of professional footballers when in the real world they're totally different. Anyone who thinks that Rangers players follow the same guidelines in their work as 'normal' people is delusional. Extra leeway in many areas, payments off the books, blind-eye turned to misbehaviour and a litany of other benefits are regularly bestowed on pro footballers in an attempt to keep them sweet if they are producing the goods on the park. Frankly, anyone who thinks pro-footballers have to live by the same rules as the rest of us has very little understanding of how the sport actually operates. Employment law is followed when it suits them. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,299 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Caretaker manager. He's useless. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, JohnMc said: What are you talking about Craig? What has this got to do with Miller and Wallace?? You're taking my reply to Darther and extrapolating it into completely different threads. At 13.03 yesterday Darther made a post directed at me that I felt was total nonsense. He suggested my work situation was similar to that of professional footballers when in the real world they're totally different. Anyone who thinks that Rangers players follow the same guidelines in their work as 'normal' people is delusional. Extra leeway in many areas, payments off the books, blind-eye turned to misbehaviour and a litany of other benefits are regularly bestowed on pro footballers in an attempt to keep them sweet if they are producing the goods on the park. Frankly, anyone who thinks pro-footballers have to live by the same rules as the rest of us has very little understanding of how the sport actually operates. Employment law is followed when it suits them. Sounds like EVERY other employer on the planet.... As for "following the same guidelines"....its Law, that covers every employee/employer regardless of the nature of your business. The specific details of a players contract will very from that of a shop work, but its the same rules & legislation for both. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsonic5791 408 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Could Murty's choice of language be contrived to the extent that he has tacit approval from a guiding hand? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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