Gaffer 1,665 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Uilleam said: Has he really declined a final offer from the Club? Or is it merely a case of player and Club in early stages of negotiations? In either case, I am inclined to trust the Football Department, which seems, at the moment, well, trustworthy. I quite like Bates as a defender, a stopper, but he's no Beckenbauer. I agree that we are building some trust in the DoF these days. There is obviously money to spend on securing the best players. Bates is decent but he's got a long way to go before he'll be a first team regular. If Alves was fit, or McCrorie was fit, he wouldn't be in the team. I think Bates is right to negotiate the best deal he possibly can, obviously, but equally he has to think what's right for him in terms of playing time. I like him but I don't think he's likely to make it with us. Maybe he'd be best playing with another club where he's likely to play each week. I would love him to prove me wrong, but he will need time to do that. I'd like him to get a year extension, or two at the very most, and see if he can grow into a first team player. Edited February 17, 2018 by Gaffer 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 5,929 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I have never heard of a player who consciously undervalues his services (Superswally, Kyle, etc notwithstanding). I think you are right, a year or eighteen months or so, should prove the boy's worth. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,037 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 He's never let us down so give the lad a decent contract . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 He’s a decent physical presence at the back but I’ll get excited by David Bates when he develops an ability to pass the ball. His distribution is truly woeful. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,723 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bill said: He’s a decent physical presence at the back but I’ll get excited by David Bates when he develops an ability to pass the ball. His distribution is truly woeful. I don't think anyone is getting excited by Bates, but he is currently one of our best CBs' and has a couple of MOTM awards in there, he is a young player who could develop into a very decent CB. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffer 1,665 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, ian1964 said: I don't think anyone is getting excited by Bates, but he is currently one of our best CBs' and has a couple of MOTM awards in there, he is a young player who could develop into a very decent CB. Would you give him more than 18 months on a contract though Ian? I agree with what you've said. I like him and he's done a decent job for us, but I can't see him developing enough to keep other players out. If we keep progressing financially the way we are, you'd like to think we could afford a strong centre half. I just don't see him being in our first team next season if that's the case. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,604 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Solid squad player, but I doubt he'd be first choice if we had decent CBs -- even of the ones we currently have he's not first-choice; Alves, and even McCrorie would be ahead of him. I still want to keep him. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,723 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gaffer said: Would you give him more than 18 months on a contract though Ian? I agree with what you've said. I like him and he's done a decent job for us, but I can't see him developing enough to keep other players out. If we keep progressing financially the way we are, you'd like to think we could afford a strong centre half. I just don't see him being in our first team next season if that's the case. I will leave all the decisions to the professionals, they will decide if Bates gets a new deal and how long for, I am merely giving an opinion that he looks a decent prospect, luckily we don't have to make these decisions. But aye! if it was my decision then he deserves a chance to continue his development, however as you say we don't know if we will be able to sign the quality of CB that you, us, want!. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Bring Aidan Wilson back from his emergency loan and have him replace Bates in the squad 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimJim 18 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Gaffer said: Would you give him more than 18 months on a contract though Ian? I agree with what you've said. I like him and he's done a decent job for us, but I can't see him developing enough to keep other players out. If we keep progressing financially the way we are, you'd like to think we could afford a strong centre half. I just don't see him being in our first team next season if that's the case. We need, as a club, a core of capable Scottish players, with an idea about what playing for Rangers means. He’s a defender that has proven he can defend , let’s keep him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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