Pacific Quay Musings?

[BlackSocksRedTops 3,751]

6 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

The "hysteria" has more to do with Rangers than Cluj. If we were struggling and clearly not fit to contend they would quickly get over this like they did last year. The hysteria is largely down to the fact that they're terrified about the upcoming visit to Ibrox while we're all looking forward to it.

Bingo! 

[Frankie 8,562]

H/T The Goal Machine on FF:

 

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/answer-to-complaints-to-bbc-a-small-admission-from-them-of-wrongdoing.86650/

 

Thanks for contacting us following Sportsound on 5 August. We've received a range of complaints about our coverage of incidents involving Rangers supporters at Rangers’ game with Kilmarnock at Rugby Park.

To allow us to reply promptly, and to ensure we use our TV Licence fee resources as efficiently as possible, we’re sending this response to everyone. We’re sorry we can’t reply individually and to every point that’s been made, but we hope the following response will address most concerns.

The opening weekend of the new Scottish football season was, again, dominated by off-field events – this just a few days after Scottish football clubs and Police Scotland had promised a crackdown on incidents of unacceptable conduct at grounds.

The incidents involving Rangers supporters that were discussed on the programme included sectarian singing, the pitch invasion following the winning goal, the damage caused to the disabled fan enclosure, and difficulties encountered in gaining entry to Rugby Park prior to kick-off, including reports of crushing and fans opening a gate to gain entry. Mention of these issues provided context to the overall coverage of the game; their relevance reflected by the coverage of these events across the Scottish media.

On Michael Stewart’s comments on Sportsound, regarding incidents prior to the Kilmarnock v Rangers game, BBC Sport Scotland senior staff have discussed this matter with Michael and he has indicated that his comments were made in reference to a video posted on various sites; for example:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4567789/rangers-fans-rugby-park-gate/

(Please note that the BBC is not responsible for the content found on any external sites.)

While this was referenced within the programme, we accept that it should have been made much more explicit that his comments about crushing were made in relation to what that video appears to show.

Following a listener’s email, presenter Jonathan Sutherland did return to the issue of crushing towards the end of the programme, to seek to clarify Michael’s comments. However, we acknowledge the first-hand accounts of crushing outside Rugby Park and, consequently, that the view that crushing can only take place in a confined space, as Michael contended, is a view that should have been challenged on the programme.

More broadly, it’s worth noting that BBC Scotland sports news correspondent, Chris McLaughlin, in addition to introducing the response from Kilmarnock, also gave Rangers’ statement on the stadium entry problems, the pitch invasion and the disabled fans enclosure damage, including Rangers’ concerns of safety issues around congestion and fans fearing they were in danger of being crushed.

Chris also talked about the report on stadium safety in Scottish football and the steps that some clubs have taken to try to tackle unacceptable conduct at grounds. And Michael Stewart and Tom English, together with Jonathan Sutherland and Chris McLaughlin, discussed the issues of unacceptable behaviour at football grounds across Scotland and what’s being done, or should be done, by all the clubs and the authorities to address these issues.

We have also looked at the Tom English tweet regarding supporters being “trapped outside Rugby Park”. BBC Sport Scotland senior staff have discussed this with Tom, and we acknowledge your concern at the tone and language of this tweet and that it wasn’t appropriate.

It’s important to note too that Tom does make clear in the Twitter exchanges that followed that he was making reference to what the video (linked to above) appears to show. In those exchanges Tom explicitly notes that at no time did he say there was not a crush. What he says is: “That video does not represent a crush. Nothing like it. I’ve asked if the crush happened elsewhere. I’d like to know.”

Rangers continue to operate an exceptional ban on one of our journalists, which severely restricts our ability to report freely from Ibrox. We have offered to return to Ibrox to provide match commentaries, while we try to find a permanent resolution to the overall dispute, but Rangers have said this is unacceptable. We continue to speak with the club as, together, we seek to find a mutually agreeable solution to the current impasse.

We would also like to assure you that, contrary to what’s been suggested, the BBC is not biased for or against Rangers FC. Our reporting is undertaken fully in line with the BBC’s Editorial Guidelines and with the Broadcasting Code which is laid down by the independent industry regulator, Ofcom.

Thanks again for getting in touch. We’ve shared your feedback with the relevant teams and senior management.

[der Berliner 3,744]

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Rangers continue to operate an exceptional ban on one of our journalists, which severely restricts our ability to report freely from Ibrox. We have offered to return to Ibrox to provide match commentaries, while we try to find a permanent resolution to the overall dispute, but Rangers have said this is unacceptable. We continue to speak with the club as, together, we seek to find a mutually agreeable solution to the current impasse.

 

 

While factually wrong, as McLaughlin only had his media privileges removed - and for valid reasons, how does that restrict the whole BBC`s ability to report from Ibrox or Auchenhowie? Not least when said journalist is - AFAIK - no longer the relevant football reporter?

Send that to Ofcom.

[26th of foot 6,082]

"which severely restricts our ability to report freely from Ibrox".

 

The PQ Gang Hut over eggs a rancid pudding.

[Scott7 6,004]

1 hour ago, Frankie said:

ban on one of our journalists, which severely restricts our ability to report freely from Ibrox

How so exactly?

[der Berliner 3,744]

Interestingly enough, when you look up Chris McLaughlin`s twitterings, you`ll find all sorts of re-tweets of Celtic signings and going-ons. Hardly anything Rangers (or anything else Scottish footballerish), unless it is controversial ... e.g. " BBC News - Football fans' safety 'still at risk' inside stadiums " (with Bluenoses in the background?), collapsed roof at Kilmarnock, or Rangers could face a million pound pay out to Ashley et al ... yes, he sure still is an unbiased specimen of BBC Scotland and it football branch.

 

Some gall to dig in behind him and play the victim card ... ooops.

 

For reference: https://twitter.com/bbcchrismclaug

Edited August 22, 2019 by der Berliner

[MacK1950 2,376]

11 hours ago, Frankie said:

H/T The Goal Machine on FF:

 

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/answer-to-complaints-to-bbc-a-small-admission-from-them-of-wrongdoing.86650/

 

 

 

Re the BBC content of the above link I feel assured that it has been swept into the growing lump in the carpet at castle doom?

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Switched the telly on this evening at 6pm. It was the BBC news which I don't usually watch but decided to leave it on. At 6.30 the Scottish News started and included in the items to be covered was "Celtic in Europe". It was a fairly lengthy piece with a contribution from James McFadden obviously enjoying his break in Stockholm and assuring us all that Celtic would progress. There was also a contribution from ex player Paul Elliot. I didn't listen to what he said.

I look forward to "Rangers in Europe" later this evening or perhaps tomorrow.

[26th of foot 6,082]

Dichotomy.

 

The PQ Gang Hut selection for BBC Radio Scotland's coverage of Rangers visit to Paisley was Big Dick as Objective Host, Liam McLeod as Commentator, James McFadden to add colour, and Chic Young to provide touchline information.  The first few minutes had Defoe played through for a shot on goal. Liam McLeod thought he was offside and was surprised the officials had not called it. McFadden was strident, "that was offside, it looked a clear offside". Liam confirmed it was offside because Chick had seen a replay, "no doubt". Then, Liam added, "I am hearing in my ear, Chick has seen another angle". Chick apologises for the bum steer and concedes, "Defoe was on side in the first phase". McFadden concludes, "it looked offside".

 

Confused? You soon will be. As the first half nears the end, St Mirren have a penalty shout. A jersey being pulled, an arm across, a foot catching on the turf leads to self trip, and Rangers defender goes down along side St Mirren attacker. Well, a dozen slow motion frame by frame shots are required from all camera angles to begin the rationalisation process. Liam calls a penalty, McFadden adds, "stonewall". Chick is fulminating and at half-time, Big Dick apes Jock Brown's line about sense of grievance.

 

The usual Sportscene crew of Jonathon Sutherland, Steven Thompson, and Michael Stewart are all in agreement, Defoe was onside in both phases and it was NOT a penalty.

 

Reference UEFA's charge against Rangers supporters' sectarian chanting, Beeb Scotland mostly decided to play with a straight bat. Taking it in chronological order, Shereen Nanjiani had Angela Haggerty as a fourth guest(it is always three) on her show being broadcast live from the Edinburgh Festival. Angela made her expected contribution, placed emphasis on her Irish catholic background, articulated her anti-racism credentials, and went heavy on the Irish famine, resultant migration, and job parity. Further, Angela revealed she is four months pregnant.

 

Off the Ball was sanguine, DrStu' berated the SFA and the SPFL. They drew the teeth of any opposition(there was none) by constantly faux blaming of Peter Lawwell because Rangers supporters blame ra Sellik Chief Executive for everything. The theme of course was, 'Songs'. This led to DrStu' and Cowan both stating they hate Isley Brothers' songs, 'Summer Breeze' and, 'Shout'. Lulu or Marie McLaughlin is cringe worthy, particularly that accent change she adopts when she returns to play Glasgow. Seriously, this from DrStu', who every week goes from couthy fitba fan on a Saturday to PhD thruster on Thursday's Media Review. Lulu was born and bred in a room and kitchen in Dennistoun, DrStu lives in a Big Hoose in Dennistoun Drives with access to a private communal gardens containing nothing but creeping hypocrisy.

 

Sportsond spent forty minutes discussing the topic. It's a fair cop was the message, and it is. Michael Stewart based his line of, 'they've only themselves to blame' by wondering aloud about issuing an orange strip. The token Rangers supporter, Derek Ferguson led a spirited defence, pointed out he played at Rangers in worse days and never issued an orange strip. Michael added, "your colours are blue and white". Billy Dodds toting that EBT was straight in, the orange strip was a homage to Dick Advocaat and the huge Dutch influence on the club when I was playing". Michael added, "there's no Dutch players at Ibrox now". Billy Dodds and Fergie battered him and it was Big Dick's intervention about the 2000 Scottish Cup final that ended a heated debate.

 

Tom English was covering the rugby?

 

Saturday evening on the new Beeb Scotland TV channel has a show called, 'The Seven'. It's hosted by an Irish chap, Nick Sheridan. He has three guests on each week to discuss current events for an hour. A breathless Angela Haggerty, and her pregnant too; was hot foot back from Edinburgh to tell of her Irish catholic background. A fourth Angela comes forth continually.

 

These last fifteen years, our club and the support have been in an engagement with FARE. We have been warned, we have been punished, and we have allowed an element of our support to continue their nihilist behaviour. They don't care about our club, they don't care about the rest of us desperately seeking to continue supporting our team. They care only for their own selfish need to shout, 'fcuk the pope and get intae these dirty Fen-ian bastards'. I have stated before on this thread, the mood music at PQ has changed since the start of the season. Some of them knew what was coming, if we are honest we knew it was coming. It does explain why Beeb Scotland called out sectarianism in Rangers supporters ranks, whilst completely ignoring se4ctarian chanting emanating from Sellik fans at Fir Park and the Green Brigade's 'Fen-ian Army' banner. They would run interference on what they knew was coming. If they are honest, they will admit it, but they won't do so, they will just file it under, 'whataboutery'.     

[26th of foot 6,082]

I have just received a telephone call from a visiting mate. He has lived outside London for nearly forty years. He is attending the game tonight and was shopping in the Rangers Shop in St Enoch Square. He leaves shop and BBC Scotland reporter and camera crew want to interview him reference UEFA's closing of a stand for the tie. Keeping it polite, he tells them why he will not speak to BBC Scotland. There's a shrug and they move to the next person alighting from the shop.

 

It will be interesting to see what contributions are aired?