Pacific Quay Musings?

[26th of foot 6,114]

Let's see if we can keep the thread on track, whilst embracing the Scots accent theme.

 

BBC Scotland has taken the Andy Murray phenomenon very seriously, right from the off they designated an Andy Murray correspondent. Firstly, it was Annie McGuire, she trailed Andy around Flushing Meadows, Melbourne Park, Roland Garros, ....... etc. We suspect Annie missed her beloved Sellik so much, she opted to unhitch her wagon from Train Murray. However, events since have shown Annie was much keener to have her wagon shunted back on to Train O'Hara. Diarmid O'Hara(brother of Brendan O'Hara SNP MP) was BBC Scotland's News Editor and was soon to leave to take over the newly created West of Scotland University. Annie is a Senior Lecturer in Journalism at said Uni, and fills in beside Cosgrove during the close season months. Another BIG Sellik supporter, the privately educated Kheredine Idessane took over Annie's gig, and remains there to this day.

 

I think we can all agree that Andy has a Scot's accent? He is Dunblane born and bred. Dunblane is a Perthshire town and normally that would ensure an easy ride from Cosgrove. I mean Andy's football affiliations are well documented, he is a Hibby for family reasons. Thus, why did Cosgrove distance himself from Andy, why did he put so much effort into distancing Andy from Scotland? His line for several years, was that Scotland could take no credit for Andy Murray. He was a product of both Catalan and Floridean conditioning. He had headed off to sunnier climes as an early teenager, and was the beneficiary of expensive coaching.

 

Then, the referendum intervened, the curmudgeon Scot revealed that if he had a vote(lives in Hampshire), he would probably vote 'Yes' in the upcoming poll. It was Volte Face time for Big Stu', Andy went from being a cosmopolitan Brit' to being, "easily the best athlete ever produced by Scotland". Now, I think Andy is up there, three grand slams, two Olympic Golds, and captaining GB to a Davis Cup win for the first time in decades; it's impressive stuff. Cosgrove threw open his latest conclusion, he involved both sides of his face in courting the reflections of both his media review and Off the Ball audiences. Unsurprisingly, both audiences agreed, well those parts of the audience that his Producers allowed to voice.

 

I would have gone for Eric Liddell, yep the guy from that film, 'Chariots of Fire'. He attended the 1924 Paris Olympics intending to run the 100 metres. He discovered the heats were held on a Sunday, the Sabbath was sacred to his well being. Immediately, he switched to the 400 meters, the race known as, 'the Manbreaker'. He ran it, won the Gold medal with little to no training, and added it to the caps won playing rugby union for Scotland. Liddell's record in the Manbreaker stood for a dozen years. Eric's name never surfaced over the weeks Andy's case was being promoted; again, maybe it's just me, but Liddell was a member at Rangers.

 

Of course, Big Stu' has an out, Liddell was born in China, his Scots parents being Presbyterian missionaries. Liddell died in China too, as a prisoner of the Japanese. Do we know Liddell's accent, was it the same as Warren Cummings? Big Stu' should know.

 

Accents, where folks are born, where they are conditioned/trained, .... etc; it's a minefield, and watching the pensioner, Big Stu' stumble his way through? Some times the comedy and the ridicule writes itself.

[Uilleam 5,960]

Cosgrove, of course, has a hale bagfu' o' accents, presumably to ensure that he never tires of hearing his ain voice. 

 

They range from fitba' loving prole to erudite aesthete, with a few stops in between, depending on whether he is talking of Partick Thistle, or Throbbing Gristle, or reading his Missal. 

 

it's quite the trick, snobbery and inverted snobbery under the same cover. 

Edited March 27, 2018 by Uilleam

[aweebluesoandso 290]

Never listen as i have said, but the character Cosgrove comes across as a right bag o' shite.

[Gonzo79 15,299]

Cosgrove is an odious, fat twat.  

[26th of foot 6,114]

4 minutes ago, Uilleam said:

Cosgrove, of course, has a hale bagfu' o' accents, presumably to ensure that he never tires of hearing his ain voice. 

 

They range from fitba' loving prole to erudite aesthete, with a few stops in between, depending on whether he is talking of Partick Thistle, or Throbbing Gristle, or reading his Missal. 

 

it's quite the trick, snobbery and inverted snobbery under the same cover. 

It lasted in excess of two decades, a Cosgrove lament that sounded something like this; all those buses leaving Perth, Motherwell, Dumbarton, ............. etc heading to old firm venues, why don't they support their local teams? Now, Big Stu' has been a denizen of the Dennistoun Drives these last twenty years, his(and his boay's) local team are half a mile away, Sellik Park. All those guests not allowed to leave the studio until they succumbed to Stu's establishment view?

 

Gersnetters should occasionally tune in on Thursday afternoons, to hear Dr Stuart Cosgrove and Dr Eamonn O'Neill discuss matters media. Audible contortions are the norm' for a man who conducted his entire tertiary education in Hull. The quest for purity takes strange roads, ah mean, Adolf was an Austrian who enjoyed waving a flag. 

[Walterbear 557]

16 minutes ago, aweebluesoandso said:

Never listen as i have said, but the character Cosgrove comes across as a right bag o' shite.

I had the misfortune of being in his company a few years ago and he came across in private exactly as he does on radio. No one can get a word in edgeways. Very little self awareness. Bag o ‘shite is just about right. His side kick Cowan is a modest enough chap and actually quite likeable and puts on a show on the airwaves whereas with Cosgrove his radio persona really is him. 

[Uilleam 5,960]

52 minutes ago, 26th of foot said:

It lasted in excess of two decades, a Cosgrove lament that sounded something like this; all those buses leaving Perth, Motherwell, Dumbarton, ............. etc heading to old firm venues, why don't they support their local teams? Now, Big Stu' has been a denizen of the Dennistoun Drives these last twenty years, his(and his boay's) local team are half a mile away, Sellik Park. All those guests not allowed to leave the studio until they succumbed to Stu's establishment view?

 

Gersnetters should occasionally tune in on Thursday afternoons, to hear Dr Stuart Cosgrove and Dr Eamonn O'Neill discuss matters media. Audible contortions are the norm' for a man who conducted his entire tertiary education in Hull. The quest for purity takes strange roads, ah mean, Adolf was an Austrian who enjoyed waving a flag. 

That's interesting, for, as you point out elsewhere,

 

"...His (Cosgrove's) line for several years, was that Scotland could take no credit for Andy Murray. He was a product of both Catalan and Floridean conditioning. He had headed off to sunnier climes as an early teenager, and was the beneficiary of expensive coaching...."

 

Leaving aside the irony -passed over, in this instance, by the Humber Bridge, one imagines- of  Cosgrove, educated outwith Scotland, criticising a sportsman because his training and development was similarly located  (I'd take Barcelona over Hull, myself, but I digress), it is a fact, often unremarked, that of the three top male UK tennis players of the past 20+ years -Messrs Rusedski, Henman, and Murray- not one came through the UK Lawn Tennis Association's training programme.

 

It seems quite clear, from what Murray, himself, and others, including his maw, have said, that staying in the UK to pursue his goal of making it in pro tennis was not an option.

We would have to ask Cosgrove just why he betook himself to East Yorkshire on the sea to study, rather than attend one of Scotland's ancient, prestigious universities. Does his choice make him somewhat less "Scots"? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Scott7 6,151]

He must have gone to Hull because he couldn’t get the qualifications for Napier or Caley. (Thats the yoonie not the self-styled football club)

[Uilleam 5,960]

2 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

He must have gone to Hull because he couldn’t get the qualifications for Napier or Caley. (Thats the yoonie not the self-styled football club)

Surely he could have burnished his working class credentials at Paisley Tech (as was), with a student flat down Feegie, to boot? 

[Gonzo79 15,299]

I hope Cosgrove enjoyed a certain statue when in Hull.