Rousseau 10,613 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ser Barristan Selmy said: If he's barely worth £500k why are we trying to sign him? Clearly the football department think he's a good option. It doesn't mean we should be spending way over the odds for any player. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,724 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, Ser Barristan Selmy said: If he's barely worth £500k why are we trying to sign him? Decent squad player with potential, but he wouldn't walk straight into our 1st team, no more than £500k 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 42 minutes ago, Ser Barristan Selmy said: And according to that website Morelos is worth 1m Euros. at an absolute minimum.....Using the Ceptic player valuation calculator, he's currently valued at £1.5bn 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,724 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Griffiths to C****c - £1m Scott Allan - £275k Lewis Morgan - £300k Ryan Christie - £500k Mackay-Steven - £250k How do you decide a players worth? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, ian1964 said: Griffiths to C****c - £1m Scott Allan - £275k Lewis Morgan - £300k Ryan Christie - £500k Mackay-Steven - £250k How do you decide a players worth? Anyone to Rangers = Player Value x 3..... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,724 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Is Kris Boyd right about Rangers player offers - or is this just what clubs do?The former Ibrox striker didn't hold back in his criticism of Rangers, but is he being fair? Kris Boyd slammed Rangers over their bid to sign Jordan Jones in the January window. The former Ibrox striker feels Rangers are unsettling players and upsetting clubs with how they are going out about their business. Speaking in today's Record Sport, Boyd said: “It pretty much sums it up as there’s a common theme the whole time. There’s one club unsettling everybody. If they want players then pay the money and come and take them. “There’s no point in dropping phone calls in here saying they want to this or that. If you want something you go and get it.Kris Boyd rips into Rangers for unsettling players then refusing to pay the going rates “Jamie Walker was the exact same. There’s a list, we could go on and on. “There’s calls been made and nothing has been backed up to do something about it. Pay the money and take the players if you want them. It’s easy to unsettle players now. “This club is not in a position where it needs to sell and certainly won’t give away one of its assets for next to nothing.By Mark McDougall “If Rangers want Jordan they’ll need to pay the money."But is Boyd being fair?When you look at the history of transfers, clubs regularly go in with a low-ball offer to test the water.Quite simply, it would be crazy for a club to open negotiations with a huge bid.Transfer negotiations can be complex and teams will often kick out the first, and often second bids.Boyd himself was the subject of a £200k offer from Rangers before he then joined for £500k in January 2006.We've seen the situation with Rangers on other occasions as well. The club made an initial bid of £300k for Lee Wallace before eventually he was bought for around £1m.Steven Naismith was the subject of a £400k offer before Kilmarnock eventually sold him to Rangers for £1.9m.Even last summer, Rangers had two bids rejected for Graham Dorrans before they eventually signed him.Reading this it might be fair to assume Boyd was right about Rangers in making small and ultimately failed opening bids – but they aren't the only club 'short-changing' their rivals.Celtic made an initial bid of £200k for Hearts star Paul Hartley before eventually giving the Tynecastle club £1.1m for the midfielder.It was the same with initial bids for Nadir Ciftci (£900k) and Stuart Armstrong (£1.5m) before both joined Celtic for £1.5m and £2m respectively.Aberdeen had an initial bid rejected for Stevie May from Preston before eventually paying £300k for him.Boyd was also critical of Rangers' chase of Jamie Walker last summer. The Ibrox club had numerous bids rejected for Walker as Hearts held out for £1m.Eventually, the winger was sold to Wigan for just £300k, although the fee is related to the fact his contract was up in the summer.But low-balling opening bids aren’t just witnessed in Scotland. As recently as Monday, West Brom had a £12m move for Scotland midfielder Tom Cairney rejected despite Newcastle having a £20m attempt knocked back last summer by Fulham.The Baggies are expected to go back in with a bid of £15m which could be accepted by Fulham.Back in the summer, Aberdeen had a £350k and then £400k bids for Louis Moult rejected and didn't go back in for him. While Rangers’ offer for Walker had an adverse effect on his form, the opposite was true of former Aberdeen target Moult. After the two failed bids, the Motherwell striker scored 13 goals in the first half of the season and earned him a £450k move to Preston this month.Not paying what Motherwell wanted eventually backfired on Aberdeen as they were then priced out of a move after the summer window with Preston able to offer much higher wages.Going in low can unsettle players and force a transfer but it's just one of the tricks of the trade.Rangers’ recent bids for Jones and Greg Docherty don't reflect the players’ vaules but they do show a starting point for negotiations.Similar has been witnessed for Rangers in this window as well. Preston, Sheffield United and Wigan have all had bids rejected for Josh Windass.They're believed to be in the region of £250k-£500k while Rangers want £2million for the English forward.The clubs then invariably meet somewhere in the middle. That's just how football works. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,294 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ian1964 said: Decent squad player with potential, but he wouldn't walk straight into our 1st team, no more than £500k He maybe would walk into the first team, as we don't have a left winger. Depends on our formation. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,724 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said: He maybe would walk into the first team, as we don't have a left winger. Depends on our formation. What about Murphy? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,613 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yes, Murphy looks to be the option at Left-wing. I agree with Ian: I'm not sure he's first-team material. I'd take him as a squad player, but only if it's for a decent price. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,724 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Naismith, (aye I know!), said he would play for nothing?, would he be a better option than being held to ransom by Killie? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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