Football sex abuse in Scotland: Nearly 300 crimes found

[Gonzo79 15,299]

Stein was wrong but there was a different attitude about covering things up at the time

He was an absolutely outstanding manager who achieved the holy grail......

 

Nice to see Rangers fans sticking up for a guy who didn't report a child abuser to the authorities.

 

Unbelievable!

[the gunslinger 3,366]

Any club who sought sporting advantage as demonstrated by covering up abuse must have every trophy from the date of cover up to them coming clean removed.

 

 

[ian1964 10,761]

Any club who sought sporting advantage as demonstrated by covering up abuse must have every trophy from the date of cover up to them coming clean removed.

 

Wishful thinking mate!

[the gunslinger 3,366]

The sfa must make that clear so they come clean now.

 

 

[the gunslinger 3,366]

Wishful thinking mate!

I disagree if the sfa dont do so other clubs will sue the sfa and the offending club for lost revenue.

 

 

[der Berliner 3,803]

Any club who sought sporting advantage as demonstrated by covering up abuse must have every trophy from the date of cover up to them coming clean removed.

 

Rest assured, if we had a scout at Ibrox for two months who might have looked at a boy, we'd get titles removed long before they set up anything about Torbett and Co. ...

 

BTW, I lost all hope into anything SFA and SP(F)L in and after 2008. The Japan Tour fiasco which determined the Scottish league season's end ahead of a European Final. Absolutely beyond joke.

[Uilleam 5,960]

Stein and the others conspired to defeat the ends of justice, and protected criminals to avoid 'besmirching' the sellik name.

Coincidentally, they also managed to obtain a sporting advantage by the cover up. Clearly, no one would permit their child to join a football feeder club which was a hotbed of buggery and the like. The concealment of this facilitated the recruitment of young players for the hoops.

 

As for the so-called arms' length not formally connected nature of the Boys' Club, I should point out that, over the years, we have been told, consistently, that the pederast Torbett was "sacked" by Stein. As far as I know, he was, some years later, somehow reinstated, which indicates something, and not, I could suggest, mere carelessness.

 

Of course, there were different attitudes in those days, but the law was the law, even then, and there were plenty of men (chaplains, vicars, scoutmasters spring to mind) gaoled annually for sex crimes against minors. Many got off, aided by celebrity, the embarrassment of victims, or the deliberate suppression of their crimes.

[ian1964 10,761]

I disagree if the sfa dont do so other clubs will sue the sfa and the offending club for lost revenue.

 

Again, wishful thinking, although I hope you are correct, however the rest of Scottish football doesn't give a flying feck!, hence the state of Scottish football.

[ian1964 10,761]

The Pope should be in jail, and all the Popes before this one!, why are they not?

[colinstein 294]

That he was an outstanding manager is not the point colin. What was going on at that club was as much of a crime back then as it is nowadays. Only the manner of reporting the crime has changed. All he had to do was pick up a phone or hand a guy his P45.

Stein was part of a massive cover-up and did the same as the rest of them, nothing.

 

I agree with much of that. Stein did give Torbett his p45.....it was after Stein left that Torbett was allowed back in