Uilleam 5,935 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 we need to learn when patience is required and when its not as a support. Youth players should not get the same abuse as top earners, formations and tactics should not be dropped because of one draw when you have scored in all the previous games etc. At the end of the day second is the top aim this year, yet many are moaning because we are falling behind celtic and saying they will gub us etc. None of that has anything to do with getting second place and is completely irrelevant to our goals, but they just cant see past celtic. We completely out played hibs and held them 1-1 in the second half with PC's tactics yet most where moaning we should have parked the bus and he didn't have a clue!! We completely out played hearts but failed to score, we all know Pena is to come in and also Herrera plus we have stated we are still looking for additions yet you would think we are completely doomed. So far we have played what for me is our boogey team in motherwell and won, got cheated in the hibs game we completely dominated and then drew with hearts in a game we should have won by a margin, thats pretty much got second place written all over it. Get KM some balance and awareness and we would have won comfortably yesterday. Our fans are murder its as simple as that we have went from being an asset to being a hindrance. We need to calm down and stop reacting to everything celtic do. The signs are good with Pedro(tin hat on) he has sorted the defence even if people want to consider games where we are a man down, have a forward in morelos that is pretty much the strongest i have seen holding up the ball since Mols, the best midfield in years especially when taking in how rounded it is, hes also got tav back scoring which is huge, the tempo bar yesterday and the pressing is some of the best i have seen at Ibrox and slowly but surely you can see the confidence returning. On top of that we look like making massive returns on the outlay. Cordoso could demand a huge fee and morelos looks way better then the likes of waghorn so should bring in a fee higher than a £1m those two alone should see us make profit on his whole outlay. Thats just great business. If he gets second spot this season he has done everything wished of him yet he will probably be sacked because of our fans lack of foresight and patience. On top of that Candiase's first touch should have a thread of its own! superb control, something we have not seen much of over the last few years either. Teams dont just see out difficult games with narrow wins they learn it through time, we just dont seem to understand these things as a support. Bit like a spoiled child really. Stop talking sense!! It will never catch on. As you well know, PC was damned by sections of the support from Day 1, and numerous members of this chorus will only really be happy if he fails, and is bagged. Sad, as some Yanqui might say. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbr 1,256 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I don't think we know what we want. A few games ago Kranjcar was 'our best player', Dorrans was a player, Windass was 'unplayable', Miller 'does the job', 'we need Wallace back', Candeias was rapid, and now they are all pish? Even the formation-debate has gone full-circle; we wanted away from the 4-3-3 because it wasn't working and we didn't have the players for it. Now the 4-4-2 is not working because we don't have 'control'? We were crying out for crosses into the box, and now that we have them we don't want them? The same thing happens with any player that has been out for any length of time: we hang our hopes on them. I don't think we know what we want; besides winning - and I don't think any of us know what it will take, because we've never been in a situation like this. I thought we controlled that game; both in terms of possession and territory, and our defensive stability is very good - something that wouldn't have happened under MW. We are missing a bit of creativity from midfield. I think Pena is the player - in the sense that he seems to be that box-to-box type - but he's not ready. I've not been too fussed about Walker, and yesterday didn't change my mind, however we didn't allow him or Hearts into the game. We need someone to beat a player, and take up positions between the lines. Walker has the pace and dynamism for it, and can take a shot. I thought Windass was our main attacking option, until he got injured - really sore one. He was ripping that FB to shreads. I wanted us to take advantage of his yellow card, but as Windass was struggling, we didn't actually have anyone else on the bench to run at the kid - Dodoo wasn't on the bench was he? The positive for me was we dominated that game. And, it was pleasing to see Hardie get a run out - good movement and he knows where the goal is! Thanks for the post Rousseau , saved me a load of typing as you explained very nicely what a lot of us are feeling just now , the way our fellow fans manage to re right history is yet another thing as well , the pining over Waghorn , Garner and wee Barrie along with O,Halloran is pathetic . The facts that the way we play football in this backwater as opposed to down south doesn't help , teams constantly sitting in making no effort to play , it even transfers over into the national team who play exactly the same way . Until we have a major overhaul of how we play we will forever be in this perpetual cartwheel .We need to show patience but I fear we are already heading down the route of getting another manager as the vocal minority cannot accept what they are watching . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhunter 0 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 However his name is pronounced -and I'm guessing Pehnya, or Peynya- I think that he is the key player for PC. The problem is that he came here with a lot of extraneous baggage, related to lifestyle, and there was some quite heated argument on these boards about his signing. Without these issues, I suspect he would never have been anywhere near Ibrox, and certainly not at the price. He looks overweight, and, clearly, he is not match fit. The questions are what, and how long, will it take to get him up to scratch? Let's hope he will start matches sooner rather than later. he's considered less fit than NK just let that sink in for a second £3M spent 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,667 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 he's considered less fit than NK just let that sink in for a second £3M spent Wasted I'd say. Not spent. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhunter 0 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Wasted I'd say. Not spent. its a transfer that stinks to the high heavens 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,613 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Wasted... so far. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 5,935 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 That's Pena written off, then. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Yeah lets retain some perspective 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,294 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 We're in the first month of the season. Give Pena a bit of time. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 There's no doubt that this could go either way but i see lots of poitives so far. More time and patience are needed for the manager and players. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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