Barebear 37 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The Scottish Media's Ransom Note July 26, 2017 By Keith Waddell | Media Analyst Has anyone seen the ransom note? https://www.rangersobserver.com/views/2017/7/23/the-scottish-medias-ransom-note Maybe we should have a "safe list" and "blacklist" of media... My blacklist includes the Record, Twitter, and all click bait "news" sites. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 5,965 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) " Rangers Tax-Caseþ @rangerstaxcase 24 seconds ago Keep your money ready. A group is in daily discussions with lawyers mapping out the strategy. Once ready- you will know. Rangers Tax-Caseþ @rangerstaxcase 3 minutes ago I know it is frustrating when we all want to do something now, but hold your fire. The groundwork must be done for this to succeed. 2/2 Rangers Tax-Caseþ @rangerstaxcase 4m minutes ago Selecting the right group to spearhead a Judicial Review is critical to the chances of success. Lawyers are being consulted. 1/2 " I hope they put Hoopyghirl in charge of the money collected again. :devil: Surely Messrs O'Nan, Tírnan, Óg, Falls, and Shinner, Solicitors to the Distressed Diaspora and Others would undertake this pro bono publico? Edited July 27, 2017 by Uilleam 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltersgotstyle 307 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Maybe we should have a "safe list" and "blacklist" of media... My blacklist includes the Record, Twitter, and all click bait "news" sites. Twitter is a fantastic platform if used wisely mate. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC 150 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) If i didnt think tbat was a scam i would love to contribute to a FULL review. Encompasing why we have nern punished not celtc why we were treated illegally and tbem blackmailed not to do anything about it. Indeed a full review should also uncover how the chiefs of the SPFL and SFA were selected and the compliance officer, also, and why he concentrates on one club only. It may also uncover the shocking betrayal and incompetence of the reaction to the cup final aftermath and the links that show the entire game in Scotland is in the grip of one club. A full and impartial Judicial review would be just what is needed. Edited July 27, 2017 by SteveC 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,811 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 It becomes a bit farcical ... (and you knew who would be at it in a flash ...) Neil Doncaster invites fans to air views on SPFL's handling of EBT issue By Chris McLaughlin Scottish Professional Football League chief executive Neil Doncaster says the governing body will meet fans with views on their handling of Rangers' use of Employee Benefit Trusts. The SPFL says it cannot impose fresh sanctions after seeking legal advice. "Rod Mackenzie [sPFL lawyer] and I are happy to meet with supporter groups who have concerns," Doncaster said. "There is a great deal of misunderstanding about what has happened here." The SPFL have called for an independent review of Scottish football governance and the way Rangers' financial problems were dealt with, but also into their new, more robust rules on non-payment of taxes. After the Supreme Court ruled this month against Rangers over their use of EBTs from 2001 to 2010, the SPFL sought advice from Queen's Counsel Gerry Moynihan. Some fan groups from rival clubs want further action to be taken, and Doncaster acknowledges the differing points of view that exist across the full range of Scottish football. 'I understand that passions run high in this area' He emphasises, though, that the league has no room for manoeuvre other than to encourage the establishment of an independent review, which would need to be instigated by the Scottish Football Association. "I understand how fans feel, we get correspondence on a daily basis from fans who are concerned about this issue and wish their opinion to be heard," Doncaster said. "I understand that passions run high in this area. That is football. As the board of the SPFL, what matters is the clear legal advice that we've had. "The opinion is very clear, the SPL [the top flight's previous governing body] prosecuted Rangers to the fullest extent that we could. We pursued it doggedly and that ended up at the Lord Nimmo Smith commission [in 2013] and that independent commission decided that the appropriate sanction was a fine of £250,000. "Various people may have views on the sufficiency of the sanction that was reached by three eminent QCs (who) determined that was the right sanction for those breaches of SPL rules as they were at the time. "What Gerry Moynihan has made absolutely clear to us is that the SPFL has no legal power to reopen that Lord Nimmo Smith commission and decision." Doncaster defended the Scottish Premier League's handling of the Rangers case, insisting that the rules on tax payments in place while the Ibrox club operate the EBT scheme were similar to those in leagues across Europe. He insists, though, that the SPFL would welcome any scrutiny of their current rules, and any potential improvements, which could come from an independent review. "If you look at the rules of this area across European football, there's been a huge change," Doncaster said. "Financial Fair Play is a relatively recent phenomenon. In the period from 1999 into the first part of the millennium, those rules were not in place across Europe. "We've created what we believe to be a very robust rule book since 2012 to ensure that there can never be a repeat of this sort of situation. We believe those rules are in good shape, but if an independent review shows that improvements can be made then we will take those on board. "(Any review) needs to cover as many areas as possible to ensure there is a full examination. The terms of reference of the review clearly need to be agreed with the Scottish FA as the governing body and we would hope they would participate in that discussion." SPFL chairman Ralph Topping believes that only an independent review of Scottish football governance in the early part of the millennium can draw a line under the issue. "In any sphere, whether it be in business or in a country like South Africa which went through far more trauma than we would see in Scottish life, there's a process, where you've got to go through self-examination, you've got to look at what you've done and put that under scrutiny with tough questions asked, with independent people reviewing what can be improved, what might have been done, what should have been done, where fault lay in an unthreatening environment," Topping said. "The reviewers will form a view and they will give opinions. Whether or not that satisfies the fans, it may put what has happened under a different light. "Who knows what they will say? All I will give a commitment to is that we will acknowledge any criticism that comes our way. We've always asked ourselves what's the right thing to do and in this particular circumstance it's to have a review. "At some point we have to draw a line under it. (A review) gives people the opportunity to give their opinions, fans groups, football clubs and others with an interest in Scottish football. "There are plenty of good people in Scottish football and sometimes good people's judgment isn't all it should be. A review body will be able to point out what they think should have happened." http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40735324 That is more like accepting the mob-mentality of the moonhowlers as something worth debating, when it actually isn't. The SPFL and SFA have rules and guidelines agreed upon for ages, now some hate-filled fans want changes and we end up with calls for "democracy" and "transparency" that are, in our context, just synonyms for "punishment". The same we saw in 2012, when the SPL Board and authorities offered their power into the hands of the baying mob ... and if anything, THAT is worth reviewing! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 In fairness this is good. If they fold so hard on this any club who sought sporting advantage by covering up crimes will be in huge trouble. Hibs for a start who we have seen testimony hid paedophilia to keep getting youth players of a high level. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooponthewing 1,139 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 In fairness this is good. If they fold so hard on this any club who sought sporting advantage by covering up crimes will be in huge trouble. Hibs for a start who we have seen testimony hid paedophilia to keep getting youth players of a high level. Yes GS. The more talk of a complete independent review of everything in the Scottish game that has been covered up to gain sporting advantage, the more I'm thinking "let's look under the rocks". The mob you just mentioned and shame FC for starters! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Yes GS. The more talk of a complete independent review of everything in the Scottish game that has been covered up to gain sporting advantage, the more I'm thinking "let's look under the rocks".The mob you just mentioned and shame FC for starters! It is only Rangers use of EBT's they want to review there will be no review of other matters. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffer 1,665 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 It is only Rangers use of EBT's they want to review there will be no review of other matters. My reading of the SPFL statement is that they are opening up a review into their overall governance so perhaps we should be ensuring that we 'insist' on certain things being included in the scope of that review. Perhaps our supporters' group, Club 1872, could meet with Doncaster about our concerns about the scope. Something tells me that this is going to open a can of worms that other clubs may not enjoy. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooponthewing 1,139 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 My reading of the SPFL statement is that they are opening up a review into their overall governance so perhaps we should be ensuring that we 'insist' on certain things being included in the scope of that review. Perhaps our supporters' group, Club 1872, could meet with Doncaster about our concerns about the scope. Something tells me that this is going to open a can of worms that other clubs may not enjoy. I listened to the phone in on Clyde last night. My interpretation was similar in that they stated they wished to look at everything that happened and to "stop anything similar happening in the future". If that's the case then all clubs will have to be looked at and no stones left unturned? Especially if the go down the "bringing the game into disrepute" route (Shame Fc Pay special attention). There was a particularly irate mhank on last night who was having a cry wank over the word "cheated". He was at the point of "combustion" when he was told the matter is now dead and he should try to move on lol. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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