BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 There are some on this forum who have argued that we are the second best team in Scotland; clearly this is not borne out by results. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 We need to start winning games against teams in the top half of the table. The problem may be, it has to be done any old how, fight, passion, grind them out as long as the points come. Will MW resort to this? Can the team do this? Has MW the gumption to change? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacK1950 2,278 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Budgets budgets budgets is getting monotonous the lack of being unable to change his tactics is proving our downfall as they are to easy to negate. I posted before the season that top 6 is a must and top 3 a bonus and stick by that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 If budgets are meaningless then we should be happy with mid table from now on. We've been continually successful throughout history due to the golden circle of being successful, which means being popular which means having a bigger budget, which means being successful. That was cemented by Struth who started to spend more money for excellence. There are other factors in the past which are less relevant now - popularity meant more choice of the best kids, more players want to play for you, and the crowd always helps. But the biggest factor in football now, is how much money you spend. What generally makes a difference and either makes you better or worse than your budget, is a savvy manager. If you're doing worse than your budget, then your manager is doing something wrong or performing badly - or if it's by a place then maybe your manager is quite good but the other manager is doing something a lot better than yours, with maybe a bit of other factors thrown in, like luck, confidence, a team just gelling for a while - Leicester being a good example. Modern Rangers and Celtic managers will usually get sacked for third place, not just because the budgets are a bit bigger - but because they dwarf the others. McLeish won 7 trophies but had to go for that reason, and is not fondly remembered. I don't want McLeish back and wasn't enamoured at the time, but even his last helicopter Sunday win, now seems like a pipe dream. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I am not considering 3rd 4th just yet but my illusion of catching the tims is oot the windae Anyone who thought we would even be close to them with all our problems whole they are out hiring top class managers was kidding themselves or knows very little. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 There are some on this forum who have argued that we are the second best team in Scotland; clearly this is not borne out by results. Yet last week it was. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooponthewing 1,139 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Anyone who thought we would even be close to them with all our problems whole they are out hiring top class managers was kidding themselves or knows very little. Our chairman as good as stated he expects second with our players and budget. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuGers 477 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Anyone who thought we would even be close to them with all our problems whole they are out hiring top class managers was kidding themselves or knows very little. I agree that we should not expect to be near them but I have to laugh at Rodgers being a top class manager. The guy is a laughing stock. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Our chairman as good as stated he expects second with our players and budget. Aye so do I. We were second yesterday. I just don't think it will be easy 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I agree that we should not expect to be near them but I have to laugh at Rodgers being a top class manager. The guy is a laughing stock. Sure he is. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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