pete 2,499 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) one of the best footballing keepers was indeed Edwin van der Sar. Edwin is every bit as good a football player as he was a keeper. Edited October 17, 2016 by pete 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 1,693 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Let me just finish this discussion with the greatest of them all. Could play outfield if need be too. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Let me just finish this discussion with the greatest of them all. Could play outfield if need be too. Who? Ah Graham Roberts:seal: Edited October 17, 2016 by pete 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearman 9 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Personally, I dont think Wes is a good keeper, and I dont think he has had a good season at all this year. There may not have been any absolute clangers, but there have quite a few that a "good" goalie would have got to, the two goals at Dolly being good examples of this where he allows the onrushing striker an easy pass into the only part of the goal he can hit it into, followed by very poor positioning for the second which although placed well was not hit that hard and came from a distance that no "good" keeper should be getting beaten from. They are not errors, but good goalies stop them. What we have been spoiled with since the Chris Woods era until McGregor left is a conveyor belt of very good/great goalies, who not only were capable of some fantastic saves, but they made these saves in the big games that really mattered to the fans. Old firm games, cup finals, European ties, title deciders etc. Until Wes is MOTM in a winning OF game or a cup final, as many of his predecessors were, he will never be able to be called a "good" goalie at Rangers. Woods, Goram, Klos, McGregor all won many big matches just about on their own. What we have had since with Alexander, Bell, Wes, Gilks etc are decent pros but they are always going to be judged against their predecessors and that is an awfully big pair of gloves to fit into. Hopefully big Wes (or Gilks depending on who plays) has that type of career-defining game on Sunday as they keep out the bheasts and lead us to the league cup final. I thought that was down to winning a watch as opposed to bad anything. How you can question the goalkeeper in a situation where the free kick taken hits a post and goes in? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannochsidebear 2,429 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I thought I explained it pretty well the first time, but the shot was not hit with great pace from around 25 yards out on an angle, making it more like 30 yards. If Wes has a better starting position, he gets across and saves that no problem. It would have been a good save, not a great one. Thats the way I saw it. I'm not blaming the keeper for the goal, my point was good keepers have that bit extra in their game that they save shots like that at that point in the game and save their team a point. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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