BlackSocksRedTops 3,751 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Can we refuse said allocation on the eve of the game, so that they also can't then sell them onto their own ? I like that idea! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooponthewing 1,139 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Can't fathom why anyone would want these lowlife reptiles at Ibrox?. This is only Monday, i have yet to speak to anyone who was at the game and witnessed these acts who wants them anywhere near Ibrox. Ban them!! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26th of foot 6,082 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Can we refuse said allocation on the eve of the game, so that they also can't then sell them onto their own ? If you remember four years past, Sellik demanded a bank transfer of the necessary funds to cover the cost of the 8,000 allocation. They didn't believe we had access to said funds. Thus, I suspect something similar remains in existence, monies handed over before tickets delivered. Obviously, Rangers recover the funds from those allocated the tickets. Refusing the allocation would almost certainly allow them to sell those tickets on to their non-season ticket support. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aweebluesoandso 290 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 VB express my feelings very succinctly, Saturdays hate fest from the terrorist supporters and sectarian bigots , should see them banned from Ibrox. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,723 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__therulesofthespfl_1375800603.pdf Page 72 clause 126 onwards. We have to return any tickets 14 days prior to the match!,it's in here above Edited September 12, 2016 by ian1964 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jaws 570 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) We have to return any tickets 14 days prior to the match!,it's in here above Thats not the way I read it Ian. It says that the home club has to provide a reasonable amount of tickets for the away support and this has to be agreed in advance. Failing agreement on the number of allocations it is to be determined by the the Board which is final and binding and since it is part of the same sentence in the clause I read it that this is what has to be determined within that 14 day period. It also goes on to state in further clause I30 that any tickets accepted by RIFC for away games have to be returned no earlier (seems poorly worded to mean no later) than 48hrs from match day. However in my opinion Rangers would have the right to refuse any person/s entry to the stadium. Of course this would also be subject to ticket refund even if it this decision were made on a public disorder/health and safety issue. Edited September 12, 2016 by Big Jaws 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca72 440 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__therulesofthespfl_1375800603.pdf Page 72 clause 126 onwards. ... on page 183 ... Unacceptable Conduct at a Stadium on the occasion of an Official Match ... jump down to bullet ... for Official Matches which have been designated as “All Tickets” and / or where the Home Club has issued tickets to the Visiting Club to sell to its own supporters:- o the Home Club should take names and addresses and obtain consent to the disclosure of same to the Visiting Club of all those to whom tickets for the visiting support area are sold by the Home Club; o the Visiting Club should take names and addresses and obtain consent to the disclosure of same to the Home Club of all those to whom tickets for the visiting support area are sold by the Visiting Club; and o the Home Club and Visiting Club should exchange details of those to whom they have sold tickets to the visiting support area if requested to do so; ... absolutely no reason that this information can not be used by the plod to identify anybody committing unacceptable conduct. Sure, it might mean extra paperwork for the clubs and sure, the plod will have to actually do some work, but the tools to catch these people are already in the rules. Why doesn't the SPFL demand of C1888c just exactly who filled those seats and/or standing areas where the sectarian banners and effigies were? Are any of these organizations, SPFL,PoliceScotland or the clubs, serious about curbing sectarianism? Also there are sections about preventing unacceptable banners and objects from being carried in to the stadium. A person can appreciate that there is a huge problem in delaying such a large crowd from entering because of searches, but it's the same area and the same group of fans who display these banners most of the time. Edited September 12, 2016 by barca72 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca72 440 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Looks like, for once, that the MSM are covering this story. I am so glad the Rangers support did nothing significant on Saturday to deflect away from their actions. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14738028.Police_launch_probe_into_hanging_effigies_described_by_Rangers_as__sickening_/ Police launch probe into Parkhead toilet damage and hanging effigies at Celtic v Rangers Old Firm derby Police launch probe into hanging effigies described by Rangers as "sickening" Police launch probe into hanging effigies described by Rangers as "sickening" 13 mins ago / Martin Williams, Senior News Reporter / @MWilliamsHT POLICE are investigating who was responsible for Parkhead toilet vandalism and the creation of hanging effigies which marred the Old Firm derby. Police Scotland confirmed they are looking for those responsible for the two hanged plastic dolls, one with a Rangers scarf around the neck, dangling above Parkhead at the start of the match in which Celtic beat Rangers. The have confirmed that they are looking into the damage to the away section toilets of Celtic Park. Pictures on social media showed dozens of roof tiles and lights smashed and cubicle doors broken while the game was also tainted by sectarian singing and distasteful banners. The two effigies with arms tied behind their backs with black tape and hung from a noose next to a banner reading: “This is it bhoys this is war”, could be seen at the start of the live TV coverage of the match as the players took to the pitch. It was World Suicide Prevention Day. Herald Scotland: Assistant chief constable for justice and support Bernard Higgins, said: "The overwhelming majority of those who attended the Celtic v Rangers game behaved responsibly and appeared to heed the advice given in the run up to the fixture. "What is hugely disappointing and frustrating is that a minority of individuals behaved in a manner which has no place in our communities, football and modern society and which has resulted in Police Scotland carrying out investigations to identify those responsible." Herald Scotland: A Rangers spokesman said that the effigies were a "disgraceful and sickening" display and said he hopped attempts would be made by police to find those responsible. "It was a vile and insensitive stunt which, understandably, has attracted widespread condemnation," said the spokesman “This was a new low but there were other unacceptable images which were also deeply offensive to Rangers supporters." At the weekend a Police Scotland spokeswoman said no criminal complaint had been made about the toilet damage and the matter was currently being dealt with internally by Celtic. Herald Scotland: After the sell-out match police praised the behaviour of the majority of Celtic and Rangers fans. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca72 440 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 from Sky twitter ... Sports Scotland @ScotlandSky · 1h1 hour ago #Rangers statement - "The Club’s Directors are fully aware of the disgust felt by Rangers supporters who were subjected to a sickening and shameful display of outright sectarian hatred towards them. We also share the fans' anger and will be contacting Club 1872 as a matter of urgency.” 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj_1872 0 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I don't see what banning them from Ibrox is going to achieve. Yes, it'd be nice not to see or hear them but it doesn't address the issue of hatred and sectarianism. I'd be questioning the stewarding and security at the stadium. Surely these banners etc should be screened on the way in. That does not appear to be happening and needs to be addressed. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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