Bluedell 5,624 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 While the police and the footballing authorites take no action against "hun" banners, you can't be surprised that the "fenian" songs start creeping in. They are condoning sectarianism. If the police and the footballing authorities were serious about clamping down on sectarianism rather than it just being Rangers bashing then they would be active against other fans as well, and then there could be self-policing by our support as well, but that's impossible under the current environment. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whosthedado 1,684 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 While the police and the footballing authorites take no action against "hun" banners, you can't be surprised that the "fenian" songs start creeping in. They are condoning sectarianism. If the police and the footballing authorities were serious about clamping down on sectarianism rather than it just being Rangers bashing then they would be active against other fans as well, and then there could be self-policing by our support as well, but that's impossible under the current environment. Nail on the head for me - agree 100% 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,663 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 It also needs to be understood that the people running this country from Holyrood are no friends of ours. They detest us. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 At some point people will have to face the truth. This is all caused by a state funded apartheid school system that churns out bigots on both sides. While they split kids up based on religion at 5 years old the government can't then later arrest them for tribal behaviour. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26th of foot 6,082 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 It's a leadership issue. The club and/or Club 1872 MUST provide the necessary leadership. It's difficult because it requires fighting simultaneously on both fronts. Simply, point out the very real implications in the current political situation, of continuing to sing this song with unchanged lyrics. I prefer, 'we are up to our eyes in BBC Scotland lies'. Ask the question, why continue to shoot ourselves in both feet and the head? We can see from Police Scotland and the Justice Minister's reaction to the Scottish Cup final that no Hibs supporter will be arrested, let alone charged with assaulting a Rangers player at Hampden. The evidence and the figures will not be allowed to show it occurred. Similarly, sectarianism will be a Rangers problem, the figures and evidence will show it. Individual and collective discipline is an absolute, to allow the fight to be undertaken on the other front. On Friday night, the usual suspects ploughed a well rehearsed furrow. Tom English was flagging it up on BBC Radio Scotland, Neil Cameron included it in his match report, BT Sport apologising, ..... etc. I suspect the SPFL Observer had signaled inclusion in his/her report. Ten years past at Inverness, it was the same MO. John Barnes offered BBC Scotland's listeners an apology, then assured them that Chick Young would be tasked to find the Observer, Alan Dick and ensure the chanting was included in his report. Naming the Observer paints a target on his back and also ensures the report would be submitted timeously on Monday morning. Saturday night/Sunday morning saw the usual suspects supporting the actions, thus reinforcing and legitimising the actions. Sellik's first game of the season at Tynecastle was awkward, it's a bi-annual IRA kara-oke. Ten days after that game, the SPFL Observer's report had still not been received. In fact, we did not know the name of the Observer. It was suspected that Sellik's go-to Observer, Ricky Gray had been called upon again? Yep, it was Ricky and no mention was made of the chanting, again. Why so late, was the report changed, was it originally inconvenient, will Ricky be used again, when so, ......................... etc? This is information that both Rangers and Club 1872 should be putting out and extrapolating upon. It will aid the demand for discipline on the other front. Last season in the Scottish Cup, we played Killie and their fans indulged in a few choruses of the Killie Boys. The usual suspects got excited and began demands for action against Rangers supporters. It was quickly doused on realisation it was Kilmarnock fans singing; but no one explained their comfort or lack of, at a grouping proclaiming their purpose to wade knee deep in Ayr United blood. Dundee fans are knee deep in United blood, Jambos in Hibee blood, ......etc. This would be a good place for the club/club 1872 to start, before progressing to SPFL Observers and their takes on IRA Kara-oke. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germinal 27 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 While the police and the footballing authorites take no action against "hun" banners, you can't be surprised that the "fenian" songs start creeping in. They are condoning sectarianism. If the police and the footballing authorities were serious about clamping down on sectarianism rather than it just being Rangers bashing then they would be active against other fans as well, and then there could be self-policing by our support as well, but that's impossible under the current environment. Hard to believe anyone could have missed the opposition to the OBA from fans others than Bears. The excuse for not self policing is astounding. Does protecting Rangers not count as a good enough reason? Anyway, I've said my piece and accept I'm in the minority. Enjoy your Sunday. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,624 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 The excuse for not self policing is astounding. Does protecting Rangers not count as a good enough reason? It must be great to live in a fantasy world and expect all bears to have the same views as you. Have you ever got involved in self-policing? Have a go and see how you get on. It'll be pissing against the wind. It was working for a while a few (5-6?) years ago, but the bears saw that the rules were not being applied and after a few beers just went for it as they saw nobody else got punished. It's got worse since then and it makes the job even more difficult. If you want to preach about it on a forum from an ivory tower then feel free, but you seem to have no understanding of how the bears who sing these songs actually think, and what it will take to eliminate the songs with the banned words. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooponthewing 1,139 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 GS had nail on head with the apartheid issue. It will never be addressed as those in power need the apartheid vote therefore bigots will be chosen at the age of five and the resulting problems will be blamed on anyone except those responsible. It would seem Rangers fans are the culprits of choice. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Bear 0 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Do they sit watching the game with a phone next to them just waiting for the first sectarian song to be belted out. F.F.S.how sad. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 GS had nail on head with the apartheid issue. It will never be addressed as those in power need the apartheid vote therefore bigots will be chosen at the age of five and the resulting problems will be blamed on anyone except those responsible.It would seem Rangers fans are the culprits of choice. And this is what someone at rangers needs to say. I can't do anything about this while the government funding bigot factories. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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