Rangers v Hamilton - Our mission, should we choose to accept it...

[forlanssister 3,114]

I don't see what's funny about that at all, they have the same agent, as I said.

 

It's funny because you state

But equally I am fairly sure that these players would not have ended up at Ibrox had MW not been the manager.

yet the Waghorn deal was well down the road before Warburton was chosen as was the Halliday deal.

 

The five players to whom you refer have absolutely nothing to do with Rangers v Hamilton Academical; the agents of players who did play in that match, two of whom have been severely criticised for their defensive frailties certainly is relevant albeit indirectly, in a discussion about how and why they arrived at the Club.

 

Who the players agents are have absolutely f*&k all to do with their performance.

 

I supported Llambias' efforts to bring Rangers costs under control but I most certainly did not support any action in conflict of interest with Ashley or his companies and as soon as it became known that no due diligence had been carried out on the loan players I roundly condemned that.

 

LOL...Llambias wasn't there to bring costs under control he was there to ensure that his master could continue milking the cash cow via a loan that was designed never to be paid back ergo giving his master permanent control without the inconvenience of actually owning the club.

[der Berliner 3,744]

Anyway, back on topic.

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I don't think Hamilton will be the cannon fodder that some seem to think they are.

 

Was a bit surprised by the constant abble on Sky last weeknd, where they had to declare that the Accies were prime candidates for relegation, only a few moments after saying that they finished 6th.

 

FS ... how about to move on? For some reason or another, you seem to revel in topics like the above and like putting the proverbial boot in. Why not dance this dance via PM?

[forlanssister 3,114]

Was a bit surprised by the constant abble on Sky last weeknd, where they had to declare that the Accies were prime candidates for relegation, only a few moments after saying that they finished 6th.

 

FS ... how about to move on? For some reason or another, you seem to revel in topics like the above and like putting the proverbial boot in. Why not dance this dance via PM?

 

Do me a favour and put me back on your block list.

Edited August 8, 2016 by forlanssister

[jhunter 0]

Anyway, back on topic.

 

It was our first game back in the top flight. We dominated possession without really creating that much in clear chances. I don't think we played too badly but the tempo needs to be higher. We also simply cant have passengers - and on Saturday both Miller and Kranjcar were passengers.

 

We need a proper striker IMHO. I know we talk about a "fluid front 3" but if they all are doing their work outside the box who gets on the end of that hard work ? Dare I say it.... we could actually be doing with a Kris Boyd type striker - a poacher if you will. Otherwise all of our work gets undone when we have very few options in the box at that crucial moment.

 

I didn't think we defended that badly - the goal was poor and was the result of a couple of unfortunate mis-haps. Hill trying to get in front of the Hamilton player and simply poking it to Crawford was one - Kranjcar going to ground when Wallace was tracking behind him was another - and finally I also felt that Wallace over-committed to the near post - looked to me like he actually over-ran the near post so wasn't really defending the goal even if Crawford had shot prior to the pull back.

 

Foderingham had a couple of decent saves but very little to do overall - Accies likely could claim the same about their keeper, though I think we worked him a little more than Fod was worked though not by much.

 

First game back and we dropped two points. The players will be more than aware that the performance and result wasn't what was needed. The management team, too, will be more than aware. The season is 38 games long. Some concerns, yes. Major worries, no. All of these things can be overcome.

 

I don't think Hamilton will be the cannon fodder that some seem to think they are.

 

hamilton are garbage , they lost to annan last season

 

you say we were fine and have no concerns but then list what are major concerns

 

no one should be trying to diminish how poor that display was

 

it also comes on the back of IMO a poor pre season and an atrocious end of last season

 

and now our top striker is injured.

[BrahimHemdani 1]

Why oh why would you bring Craig Houston or Chris Graham into this ??? Your personal vendetta there is exposing yourself to be very bitter.

 

This thread needs to revert to topic and quickly, otherwise it will be closed.

 

Chris Graham and Craig Houston have absolutely nothing to do with the game either but you saw fit to bring them into this. It is unbecoming.

 

Firstly, I think you'll find that it wasn't I who took this thread off topic that was FS at #177 when he mentioned Llambias and Leach who weren't playing in the game nor were the 5 players mentioned; but I didn't notice FS being admonished.

 

However there didn't seem to a problem when his favourites Llambias and Leach lumbered us with 5 Newcastle players

 

Secondly chilledbear made this unsubstantiated allegation at #193

 

You supported people who would have finished Rangers

 

CB obviously has a view about those he puts into the category of "people who would have finished Rangers" but he doesn't name who they are, all he does is sling some mud.

 

I thought there was a rule around here about unsubstantiated allegations but I didn't notice him being admonished either, except by dB.

 

So I exercised my right to respond by naming two people who in my view come into that category, because they encouraged supporters not to renew ST's. So I have named the people and given my reason.

[the gunslinger 3,366]

Thank God for those who didn't renew.

[BrahimHemdani 1]

http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/2013/09/01/why-king-agreed-to-r718m-for-a-new-start

 

That's a newspaper report which is at best misleading and at worst simply wrong.

 

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politic...tail&pid=71616

 

Mr David Cunningham King, the accused in the case of The State versus DC King (Case no.: CC257/2005 - otherwise referred to as the King 1 case), today entered a plea of guilty in the South Gauteng High Court held at Palm Ridge, on 41 counts of various contraventions of section 75 of the Income Tax Act 58 of 1962, as per the indictment.

 

The said plea is in accordance with a plea and sentence agreement in terms of section 105A(1) of the Criminal Procedure Act 51 of 1977, entered into between the accused and the National Prosecuting Authority. The High Court was satisfied that the aforesaid agreement complied with the requirements of the provisions of section 105A(1) of the Criminal Procedure Act, that the accused admitted the allegations in the above-mentioned counts and that he was guilty of the offences.

 

The Court was moreover satisfied that the sentence agreement was just, whereupon the Court proceeded to convict the accused of the offences and sentenced the accused in accordance with the sentence agreement.

 

The above is the incontrovertible court record.

 

This has been argued here ad nauseum but IMHO a person who is convicted (moreover on his own guilty plea) in a criminal court is a convicted criminal.

 

I acknowledge that a Scottish court held he was not disqualified from being a director and the SFA held he was "fit and proper"; but that is not the basis of my personal opinion.

Edited August 8, 2016 by BrahimHemdani

[the gunslinger 3,366]

Firstly, I think you'll find that it wasn't I who took this thread off topic that was FS at #177 when he mentioned Llambias and Leach who weren't playing in the game nor were the 5 players mentioned; but I didn't notice FS being admonished.

 

 

 

Secondly chilledbear made this unsubstantiated allegation at #193

 

 

 

CB obviously has a view about those he puts into the category of "people who would have finished Rangers" but he doesn't name who they are, all he does is sling some mud.

 

I thought there was a rule around here about unsubstantiated allegations but I didn't notice him being admonished either, except by dB.

 

So I exercised my right to respond by naming two people who in my view come into that category, because they encouraged supporters not to renew ST's. So I have named the people and given my reason.

I can't for the life of me see how that's unsubstantiated.

 

Just because we stopped them finishing us?

[craig 5,199]

Firstly, I think you'll find that it wasn't I who took this thread off topic that was FS at #177 when he mentioned Llambias and Leach who weren't playing in the game nor were the 5 players mentioned; but I didn't notice FS being admonished.

 

 

 

Secondly chilledbear made this unsubstantiated allegation at #193

 

 

 

CB obviously has a view about those he puts into the category of "people who would have finished Rangers" but he doesn't name who they are, all he does is sling some mud.

 

I thought there was a rule around here about unsubstantiated allegations but I didn't notice him being admonished either, except by dB.

 

So I exercised my right to respond by naming two people who in my view come into that category, because they encouraged supporters not to renew ST's. So I have named the people and given my reason.

 

I'm not convinced that you "exercised our right by naming 2 people that come into that category". It would have been much more appropriate to have asked the other posters to let that be rather than enter a poor tit-for-tat by bringing two fans into the equation.

 

Regarding the 2 fans you mention - it was as an indirect result of those "calls to arms" to not renew ST's that Dave King ultimately came to power - and right now we look all the stronger for it. So to say that they were trying to kill the club is stretching things IMO.

 

Now... had Llambias & Leach still been at the helm then we very well may have been staring at the abyss.

 

I don't think that CB needed to name names - fairly clear who he was talking about and, even if not, it wouldn't be too difficult to guess.

 

Funny you mention unsubstantiated allegations in the very same thread where you very subtly make unsubstantiated allegations about the relationship between our manager, his agent and some of his players having the same agent......

[craig 5,199]

This has been argued here ad nauseum but IMHO a person who is convicted (moreover on his own guilty plea) in a criminal court is a convicted criminal.

 

I acknowledge that a Scottish court held he was not disqualified from being a director and the SFA held he was "fit and proper"; but that is not the basis of my personal opinion.

 

Just as well for the Club that your personal opinion doesn't count then because from where I am sitting the Club is in far safer hands than it was with Ashley, Green and Whyte.