Bearman 9 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Another observation I would like to make on our transfer policy options stems from the changes that have been irreversibly introduced by the media exposure that football has achieved on a global basis. When I was a kid it was the ambition of my schoolmates to play for Rangers one day – and play only for Rangers. It is now the case that most Rangers supporting youngsters see playing for the Club as a strong ambition but not their final ambition. Increasingly, playing for Rangers is seen as the realisation of stage one of a personal dream before moving on to one of the Big 5 leagues. It is a pity – but again is a reality that we must recognise as non-Scottish clubs continue to recruit the best young talent irrespective of their nationality. Sorry, but that is a load of pish! It's total nonsense really and means something else! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Sorry, but that is a load of pish! It's total nonsense really and means something else! Personally I think the whole thing is a lot of crap and he or his media man has probably written it before any 2800 questions. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Sorry, but that is a load of pish! It's total nonsense really and means something else! Seems true enough to me 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,367 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Sorry, but that is a load of pish! It's total nonsense really and means something else! I disagree. Kids will always be Rangers fans and want to play for the club but many, if talented enough, will no longer be happy to stay at Rangers but want to move on. For example, someone like Davie Cooper was happy to play for Rangers for as long as he could in the 1970s and 80s because the Scottish league was as good as anywhere else to a better extent than it is now. In contrast, someone like Barrie McKay may prefer to try his luck and test his quality elsewhere - especially if we struggle to obtain European football. It's the reversal of Scottish football's decline as a whole that needs a better answer from King. But he doesn't stand alone in that respect. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Really shocked so many are falling for the nonsense in that statement. 90% of it has zero relevance other than to bring up points of agreement. Full of contradictions and massive holes. Then the old titbit of a brighter more lucrative future playing else where. Thought we had all learned to cut through the shit by now and focus and the here and now. Tells us zero about how we are going to compete with a wage budget half to a third of our biggest rival with pretty much zero cash to get the ball rolling. This is the same transfer policy utilised by every team in Scotland outwith the old-firm for the last ten years. The parts about youth are years off. You can't just switch on a youth system then expect it to give results that can affect the first team within the first 5 years. Again should have no impact on our transfer policy for first team in the short to medium term. Any player produced in that time frame should be a bonus not a corner stone Frees, loans and development fees based on a fraction of the resources needed will not win the league or put us back top with any regularity or justifiable expectation 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I disagree. Kids will always be Rangers fans and want to play for the club but many, if talented enough, will no longer be happy to stay at Rangers but want to move on. For example, someone like Davie Cooper was happy to play for Rangers for as long as he could in the 1970s and 80s because the Scottish league was as good as anywhere else to a better extent than it is now. In contrast, someone like Barrie McKay may prefer to try his luck and test his quality elsewhere - especially if we struggle to obtain European football. It's the reversal of Scottish football's decline as a whole that needs a better answer from King. But he doesn't stand alone in that respect. That should be a bonus then. If kids want to use us as a shop window to a league with bundles of cash them bring it on. We should be looking to use the abundance of cash down south to attract transfer fees way above a players true value then use that money to recruit wisely. The bigger question is how do we get the Scottish talent to come to us when we offer less money than Celtic in both transfer fees and wages. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,367 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 That should be a bonus then. If kids want to use us as a shop window to a league with bundles of cash them bring it on. We should be looking to use the abundance of cash down south to attract transfer fees way above a players true value then use that money to recruit wisely. The bigger question is how do we get the Scottish talent to come to us when we offer less money than Celtic in both transfer fees and wages. In can work both ways though. Some will want to use as a platform, others will want to go straight to other teams. We can't offer the same as Celtic until we're competing in Europe again. Anything else is risk-taking which we certainly can't afford. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) In can work both ways though. Some will want to use as a platform, others will want to go straight to other teams. We can't offer the same as Celtic until we're competing in Europe again. Anything else is risk-taking which we certainly can't afford. Basing our transfer policy on European football is also massively risky and a path we have already been down Edit* the only people protected by that approach are the board members. The club runs the same financial risk if the money comes from European football or board members Edited June 21, 2016 by trublusince1982 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,367 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Really shocked so many are falling for the nonsense in that statement. 90% of it has zero relevance other than to bring up points of agreement. Full of contradictions and massive holes. Then the old titbit of a brighter more lucrative future playing else where. Thought we had all learned to cut through the shit by now and focus and the here and now. Tells us zero about how we are going to compete with a wage budget half to a third of our biggest rival with pretty much zero cash to get the ball rolling. This is the same transfer policy utilised by every team in Scotland outwith the old-firm for the last ten years. The parts about youth are years off. You can't just switch on a youth system then expect it to give results that can affect the first team within the first 5 years. Again should have no impact on our transfer policy for first team in the short to medium term. Any player produced in that time frame should be a bonus not a corner stone Frees, loans and development fees based on a fraction of the resources needed will not win the league or put us back top with any regularity or justifiable expectation I tended to accept the verbosity with the honesty in which it was offered. In the last 18 months or so, King has been criticised for mentioning figures when he would have been better advised keeping things general. Saying there's £30m to spend then not doing so (or having his words twisted) didn't help him or us. That's not to say this response can't be criticised. Your points are valid and I'd hope the budget part is revisited in another topic. However, we also have to be realistic. Celtic have a huge head start on us in that sense and we're hamstrung with the retail/sponsorship issues. Unless soft loans are provided then - out with our cash - there is no money to speak of. Does this mean we accept soft loans? Perhaps but to what extent and how much equity will people want in return? We have no divine right to win the league. Yes our income should mean we can compete for it but we lack the solid foundation to take risks at this stage. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,367 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Basing our transfer policy on European football is also massively risky and a path we have already been down Edit* the only people protected by that approach are the board members. The club runs the same financial risk if the money comes from European football or board members I'd hope we don't base anything on European football and just use any funds from there as unexpected bonuses. Back in the real world, if we're to challenge Celtic who do have access to such funds, then it will be difficult to mount a real attack until we have same. In that sense, last month's Hampden loss was a real disappointment - emotionally and logistically. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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