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The SPL clubs voted to throw us out of the SPL. As far as they were concerned that was the end of the matter. They had no interest in where else we played. Take a look back at what they were saying at the time - they wanted us dead. Had the clubs in the divisions below not voted to allow us into the bottom tier we would not be playing football.

 

We know all of that boabie - but the SPL clubs didn't have remit to, as you suggested, "Kick us out of Scottish Football". They didn't have that right. They only had the right to expel us from the SPL. U being kicked out of Scottish Football was always going to be the remit of the SFL clubs.

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We may have been playing in England as the Conference leagues said we would be welcomed.

 

That's where we should have gone and been rid of the Scottish bile for good. Chances are we would at a minimum be in the Championship right now making more money than we are in Scotland. One step away from the goose laying the golden eggs.

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That's where we should have gone and been rid of the Scottish bile for good. Chances are we would at a minimum be in the Championship right now making more money than we are in Scotland. One step away from the goose laying the golden eggs.

 

The difficulty being of course was that we never had an official invite. If we had went down that route and failed(outvoted) then we would have been left with nothing. If we had told the SPFL teams they were second choice then I doubt they would have let us into the league.

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The difficulty being of course was that we never had an official invite. If we had went down that route and failed(outvoted) then we would have been left with nothing. If we had told the SPFL teams they were second choice then I doubt they would have let us into the league.

 

You may be right but i'm not so sure. For those SPFL teams we are the goose that lays the golden eggs and could have appeared the same to the conference teams. Not only would it have got them money for full houses it would have massively raised the profile of their league.

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Monday 27th June 2016 at 10:25

 

Contrary to press reports suggesting the SPFL has already decided there will be no compensation or fixtures changed, Thistle has secured a meeting with the SPFL this week to discuss the situation in more detail. We are also in touch with the other clubs in the League and will be arranging to meet them at a separate time.

 

We recognise that changing the fixture list now would be disruptive to fans. Reluctantly, we accept that there will be a sporting disadvantage in the coming season. However, we will press the SPFL to show how it intends to avoid this recurring in future.

 

As fixtures can't be changed, the question of compensation remains live for clubs affected. We look forward to a positive and robust exchange of views on this matter at the meeting.

 

The Board hopes that, despite media comment suggesting otherwise, the SPFL would not have agreed to a meeting if minds have already been made up on this important matter.

 

http://ptfc.co.uk/news/2016-2017/june_2016/club_statement_fixtures

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The ironic thing is that the change in rules means that they kind of need the OF to finish 1st and 2nd every season which is something they ideally don't want in a sporting sense... They are so busy trying to get one over on Rangers that they are continually self harming.

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When did they say that? I don't recall that.

 

 

Rangers chief executive Charles Green

 

THE door is only slightly ajar but Charles Green has been given the first glimmer of encouragement as he seeks an escape route out of Scottish football for Rangers.

 

The Conference League has emerged as a possible destination for the Ibrox giants with the majority of clubs in the fifth tier of the English game keen on bringing them on board.

 

Chief executive Green threatens to up sticks and leave and will recommend to the Rangers board they go elsewhere if current league reconstruction proposals for a 12-12-18 set-up go through.

 

By his own admission the options are limited, although a poll conducted by talkSPORT radio station has indicated 60 per cent of teams in the Conference would support moves to introduce Rangers into the league.

 

The Conference clubs will hold their mid-season meeting next week and the possibility of the Division Three leaders moving south could be up for debate.

 

Stockport County are one of the clubs in favour with vice-chairman Spencer Fearn believing Ally McCoist’s men would help give the league a higher profile and better financial rewards.

 

Fearn said: “If Rangers feel they have been given a raw deal in Scotland and are determined to leave then there is no harm in discussing it.

 

“I would welcome them as it would be excellent in terms of revenue generation for clubs through TV money, gate income and sponsorship as well as raising awareness of the Conference brand outside the UK.

 

“We have seen what has happened in Scotland’s Third Division so it would be good for the Conference to have Rangers.

 

“Clubs like Peterhead and East Stirling have been playing in front of full stadiums and there is so much interest because of the presence of Rangers.

 

“Rangers being in any division gives it a boost because of the fanbase and history. I would certainly welcome them.”

 

Fearn spent four years in Scotland as owner of East Stirling and while he would prefer Rangers to stay put for the sake of the national game he is well aware of the benefits they can bring to the table.

 

He said: “Rangers’ involvement would allow us to put ourselves in the shop window. There would be better TV deals and more fans through the door. There’s also the fact they would be able to play in the FA Cup.

 

“In an ideal world I would prefer Rangers staying in Scotland but if they want to leave I’d be delighted for them to join the league.

 

“I don’t think it would be good for Scottish football as the Old Firm are the heartbeat of the game.

 

“But if they are adamant they do not want to stay there we would happily accept them here. The standard is pretty good. I would say it’s on a par with the SPL and top of the First Division.”

 

However, not every club in the Conference is prepared to roll out the welcome mat, with Forest Green one of those firmly against fostering cross-border relations.

 

When all 24 Conference clubs were asked their views on Rangers joining the league, 15 replied and nine were in favour.

 

Forest Green – NO

 

Chairman Dale Vince: “That’s what Hadrian’s Wall is for – it’s a poor idea.”

 

Braintree Town – YES

 

Assistant manager Mark Sansom: “I’d say yes as long as they picked their fans up from the airport and took them back again.”

 

Gateshead – NO

 

Chairman Graham Wood: “I would welcome them in the Premier League but say no to them in the Conference.”

 

Tamworth – YES

 

General secretary Bradley Hadley: “Yes, we would welcome them as long as it wasn’t at our expense.

 

“Our players would love to play in front of 50,000 people. It would be great to have a 4000 sell-out here financially, although it would cost a lot to police.”

 

Nuneaton – YES

 

Ian Neale, owner and CEO: “Yes, we’d be happy with the extra support. There are already Welsh teams like Newport in the league so it isn’t that different. It would generate a lot of media attention for the league.”

 

Ebbsfleet United – MAYBE

 

Chairman Jessica McQueen: “We wouldn’t be averse to any club joining but it’s the distance we would have to travel to play Rangers that would be a problem.

 

“We are part-timers but if Rangers joining meant we would become full-time, then maybe.”

 

Barrow – MAYBE

 

Brian Keen, chairman: “I cannot see anything against this but it needs a lot of looking into.

 

“They would have some fanatical travelling supporters but it would only be used as a lever to get into the English League and I cannot see the authorities allowing it.”

 

Macclesfield – YES

 

CEO John Harris: “In principle if it strengthened the league we would be in favour. It would give the Conference more credibility.

 

Mansfield – YES

 

Media officer Mark Stevenson: “Our manager would be in favour of Rangers joining the Conference.”

 

Woking – YES

 

Mike Smith, chairman: “We would be right behind Rangers joining the Conference, although there are logistics and administrative issues that would need to be sorted out.”

 

Southport – YES

 

Press officer Haydn Preece: “The size of grounds would be difficult but it would be fantastic for us and the sponsors. It would give us a huge financial boost and heighten the profile of the league.”

 

Newport – NO

 

Les Scadding, chairman: “Rangers coming into the Conference sets a dangerous precedent for football both sides of the border.”

 

Wrexham – YES

 

Press officer Geraint Parry: “If Rangers were accepted in we would be happy to see them.”

 

Hyde – MAYBE

 

Director/secretary Andy McAnulty: “It would depend on a majority agreement of all Conference clubs. If this were the case, we would be happy to go along with the League’s wishes.”

 

Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/conference-clubs-to-debate-possibility-of-rangers-1536600#qoDCZ1wC2Lb8Vc5q.99

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