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Just watched the video link posted. I also saw this on SSN earlier. What can I say that hasn't already been said?. Going back to what Frankie said in his article and how we address the deep rooted problems is defiantly an issue that must be confronted. In the short term I can't emphasise enough my desire to act and act quickly. We must do something. Banning all away fans from Ibrox would be a start. We don't need their money or hatred. It is not just a one club problem. The resentment and poison is widespread in Scottish society. We have to stand up for ourselves, we have endured this vile behaviour for long enough. If nothing else the safety of players at their work is an issue and Rangers have a duty of care. If a player were to be attacked at Ibrox, their place of work, by away fans, and Rangers had not taken sufficient measures to secure their safety that would be a legal issue. Take the problem away and ban them. We can fill the stadium no problem.

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You're welcome.

 

Managed to assist three fellow GersNetters get tickets.

 

Noticed you were willing to travel some distance without a ticket so when we managed to obtain some from a Highland League club I thought I'd offer you one in case you hadn't managed to locate one.

 

Always happy to help fellow Bears out with tickets whenever possible.

 

Terrific gesture my friend, though completely unsurprised by the humility you show !!

 

Where was my ticket ? :ninja:

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Thought one of the most shocking aspects of yesterdays shenanigans was the utterly lamentable behaviour of Police Scotland and the stewards.

 

Don't know how many of you are familiar with the bowels of Hampden but there is a large subterranean car park under the Main Stand accessed via the ramps at each end. Wheelchairs fans located at the front of the South Stand and in the Upper West Stand corner have to use the ramp to gain access to their spaces. It's normal for games at Hampden for the Police Horse-boxes to be parked under the Main Stand (seen that numerous times over the years )and the mounted horses to be there too, we have weave constantly to avoid the horse shit that lays everywhere . Yesterday for some reason or another they were nowhere near there and it wasn't till I was exiting the ramp that the Mounted Police came charging down.

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Thought one of the most shocking aspects of yesterdays shenanigans was the utterly lamentable behaviour of Police Scotland and the stewards.

 

Don't know how many of you are familiar with the bowels of Hampden but there is a large subterranean car park under the Main Stand accessed via the ramps at each end. Wheelchairs fans located at the front of the South Stand and in the Upper West Stand corner have to use the ramp to gain access to their spaces. It's normal for games at Hampden for the Police Horse-boxes to be parked under the Main Stand (seen that numerous times over the years )and the mounted horses to be there too, we have weave constantly to avoid the horse shit that lays everywhere . Yesterday for some reason or another they were nowhere near there and it wasn't till I was exiting the ramp that the Mounted Police came charging down.

 

Massive fail from Police Scotland & stewards!

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Yeh FS I was sitting right at front down there and came past the ramp/entrance on way in and out. I know exactly what you mean and Plod Scotland were an absolute disgrace, conspicuous by there absence dosnt cover it. I was walking back down towards New Vicky Hospital before we saw any reinforcements.

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Police Scotland's reputation is now firmly on the line. Either they deal with this properly and pursue the trouble makers through the courts or they will be a laughing stock. There is enough video, picture and social media evidence to play with. Assault is assault whether there is "exuberance" involved or not.

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What really happened when the Scottish Cup Final descended into mayhem

 

Neil Cameron

 

THE trickle very quickly became a river and then within seconds turned into a flood of people.

 

As soon as the final whistle blew at Hampden Park on Saturday evening confirming that Hibernian had won their first Scottish Cup for 114 years, a few dozen supporters had broken past the overwhelmed stewards and that immediately surged into the hundreds and then thousands in the blink of an eye.

 

Most of those who made their way on to the pitch - and this was literally seconds after the game ended - stayed in the Hibs half, as it were, but quite a few, certainly in their hundreds, immediately made their way across the grass towards the Rangers end.

 

And while the majority were merely celebrating, albeit illegally, there were more than a few who had other things on their mind. They taunted the Rangers end with the usual gestures. Some only a few yards from the front rows.

 

I personally saw Lee Wallace, the Rangers captain, being punched by one man who then disappeared into the throng. Rangers insist more players were attacked, six seems to the general consensus, and members of the coaching staff although I did not see those incidents myself.

 

After approximately five minutes from the first fan getting on to the track, you could sense there were Rangers supporters desperate to get involved. Plastic bottles were thrown, one cup full of liquid which came over my head, missed a female steward’s face by an inch, and then despite an increased police presence at this stage, people started to pour out of the opposite stands.

 

By this time there were easily 5000 Hibs supporters on the pitch, maybe more, and they all-but covered every inch from the centre line to the goal, and those from the Rangers end who got past the stewards numbered a couple of hundred at most.

 

There was a lot of posturing, people squaring up with not a punch thrown, but I witnessed several actual fights taking places; two dressed in green attacked on man in blue, another Hibs fan was felled from behind from a Rangers supporter who ran from the lower stand to punch him - this drew loud cheers - before disappearing.

 

Arrests were being made but there were too many people to deal with. The fights were now taking place all over the pitch.

 

By the time the mounted police belatedly arrived – the best part of ten minutes after any fighting began - there were a large number of their colleagues on the pitch who had formed a thin blue line which kept the rival factions apart.

 

At this point, the banned Billy Boys song, complete with sectarian lyrics, was belted out by Rangers supporters – some pyrotechnics went off at the start of the game at that end – and the feeling in the main stand at that moment was that the situation was about to get a lot worse.

 

However, whether it was the presence of police or maybe it was that people naturally began to retreat, everything calmed down, although there remained thousands on the Hibs side of the pitch. Their fellow supporters chanted for them to get off. This was also the message over the tannoy which came with a warning that the cup would not be presented unless they made their way back to the stands.

 

By this time most Rangers fans had left the ground and some 45 minutes after the game finished, the Hibs captain David Gray eventually lifted the cup.

 

It wasn’t World War Three and the 1980 Old Firm riot was ten times worse, but the idea no Rangers player was hurt and that the Hibs fans did not provoke their opposition – some of whom accepted their invitation for trouble quite happily – is quite simply a nonsense.

 

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/14509150.What_really_happened_when_the_Scottish_Cup_Final_descended_into_mayhem/?ref=twtrec

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