the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 De boer was hugely disappointing for us. He showed us for his third season only. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whosthedado 1,685 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 De boer was hugely disappointing for us. He showed us for his third season only. Seriously? I've got different memories mate to be fair? To even attract a player of that class was an achievement in my opinion 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 If only he had turned up it would have been. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Iirc we won 1 title in 4 while he was here. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whosthedado 1,685 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 five trophies in four years was it not? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Dynamo 128 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 De boer was hugely disappointing for us. He showed us for his third season only. De Boer was light years ahead of what we had at the time. I still remember him pointing where he was going to put the ball to one of our strikers at the time. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,747 Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Always "interesting" to see how differently people value a player's input or performances. Or what sort of arguments are thrown into the fray, no matter how relevant or - indeed - universally verifyable. Take Shiels. The lad played 124 games for us, stayed with us in the lower leagues, was used rather eratically by his managers, yet always gave his all (all that a Dean Shiels had to give) and had an admirable goals and assists return during his stay. Yet, people come up with him taking up wages (and honestly, we'll never agree on what a player should get these days and whether he deserves what he actually gets) while doing is job and in the end "being not good enough" because "he did not get another contract". Without actually knowing a) what his salary was and b) what actually made us cut the ties with him. Then we end up debating Ronad DeBoer's contribution and start counting the trophies we won while he was here. As if it was up to him alone (and not the managers, team-mates and - shock-horror - the opposition at the time that / ) who had a say in results and trophies. We can do much better than that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,747 Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Meanwhile ... From FF We are linked with Walsall's Tom Bradshaw on the back of the mail, penny by Stephen McGowan. £750,000 fee mentioned. He could be the striker rumoured about somewhat earlier in the week ... or the Mail reading that rumour and trying their luck. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tom-bradshaw/profil/spieler/139781 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhunter 0 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Always "interesting" to see how differently people value a player's input or performances. Or what sort of arguments are thrown into the fray, no matter how relevant or - indeed - universally verifyable. Take Shiels. The lad played 124 games for us, stayed with us in the lower leagues, was used rather eratically by his managers, yet always gave his all (all that a Dean Shiels had to give) and had an admirable goals and assists return during his stay. Yet, people come up with him taking up wages (and honestly, we'll never agree on what a player should get these days and whether he deserves what he actually gets) while doing is job and in the end "being not good enough" because "he did not get another contract". Without actually knowing a) what his salary was and b) what actually made us cut the ties with him. Then we end up debating Ronad DeBoer's contribution and start counting the trophies we won while he was here. As if it was up to him alone (and not the managers, team-mates and - shock-horror - the opposition at the time that / ) who had a say in results and trophies. We can do much better than that. Comes down to what they are capable of delivering versus what they actually deliver shiels for example on his day was a very useful SPL player he very rarely showed that quality for us , indeed his cup final cameo was an embarrassment De Boer was a world class player - we saw one season of this for us because his knee was like a rotten apple core - how he passed a medical at the time and hartson failed one is still a mystery. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Exactly. He could have been better than Laudrup but instead was on a par with Jonas thern 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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