Rangers 2 - 2 Celtic (Rangers win 5-4 after penalties)

[RabiDuck 89]

Who says hun isn't an offensive word?

 

The newspaper report that the police had been instructed that it wasn't was proved inaccurate.

 

It is clearly a derogatory term for Protestant and falls foul therefore of all the relevant legislation.

 

It's a disgrace that the banner was allowed by the Police and Hampden authorities.

 

Agreed that it clearly is offensive, but given the lack of any previous complaint being upheld for its use (as far as I'm aware) and the constant use of it at a number of grounds, it's obvious that the authorities aren't willing to take action against it. I'll be very surprised if this is any different and action is taken.

[buster. 5,257]

What banners did we have that were in the least bit sectarian?

 

There's a difference between someone coming along to a game and singing something sectarian, and the authorities checking and allowing a banner with sectarian references on it.

 

What would be the reaction if we tried to have a banner with the F or T words on it?

 

I was coming from a general POV and not just yesterday, ie. the whole political (correctness) issues that surround this and beyond.

 

The bigger picture is more important than the daily bickering.

The Police have to waste time and resources fronting ludicrous and flawed legislation.

There are many more important 'sticks and stones' out there......... and words don't hurt people, especially when the supposed offence taken is often actually sought out by those 'poor victims' for political ammunition.

 

You can extrapolate this and go further but that would be for 'the Lounge'.

[RabiDuck 89]

Agreed that it clearly is offensive, but given the lack of any previous complaint being upheld for its use (as far as I'm aware) and the constant use of it at a number of grounds, it's obvious that the authorities aren't willing to take action against it. I'll be very surprised if this is any different and action is taken.

 

Also worth noting the lack of any mention in the mhedia. Imagine the outcry if we'd had a banner in our crowd (however small) with the word f***** included. We'd (rightly) have been lambasted and calls for action against those fans. Their banner filled half the stand and was clearly intended to be provocative, yet we've heard nothing!

[RANGERRAB 3,732]

Also worth noting the lack of any mention in the mhedia. Imagine the outcry if we'd had a banner in our crowd (however small) with the word f***** included. We'd (rightly) have been lambasted and calls for action against those fans. Their banner filled half the stand and was clearly intended to be provocative, yet we've heard nothing!

 

It's BIGOTRY or BANTER depending on which school you went to. Welcome to SCOTLAND 2016

[ian1964 10,761]

Also worth noting the lack of any mention in the mhedia. Imagine the outcry if we'd had a banner in our crowd (however small) with the word f***** included. We'd (rightly) have been lambasted and calls for action against those fans. Their banner filled half the stand and was clearly intended to be provocative, yet we've heard nothing!

 

It wasn't the toxic atmosphere many predicted but perhaps one day the songs at an Old Firm game will be about the football

 

A YEAR and a bit ago, when these two met for the first time in three years, Frankie Boyle sent out the following Tweet.

 

“I look forward to seeing the Old Firm fans stop debating corporate identities and get back to arguing about 17th Century Irish History.”

 

And at Hampden Park yesterday, there were plenty of songs about Ireland with a smattering of shouts of tax evasion and one or two ditties and banners that made you think; "Really?"

 

But do you want to know something? It was actually okay. Sure, there were moments of nastiness and a line was crossed more than once but it was miles better than last year’s game and that at least is something.

 

It wasn’t the awfulness some expected, and probably hoped it would be, and maybe the fact there were so many nerves about helped. Fans on both sides were too busy biting their nails instead of pouring out bile.

 

There was still some of that. It is, after all, the Old Firm game.

 

At 2-1 to Rangers and also at the end of their team's successful penalty shoot-out, the banned and oh-so-dreary Billy Boys was belted out and the Ibrox club really should get into bother about that. They were not “up to their knees” in EBTs as some will claim. It was the, cough, traditional lyric.

 

Just to balance things out, Celtic fans have been told about a thousand times not to bring pyrotechnics to games and the same folk, one would imagine, continually ignore the warnings and did just that. It’s almost as if they don’t care about their own club.

 

And then there were the banners.

 

One from the Celtic end, which came in three parts, ended with rather lovely quip; “Hun Scum Forever.” While at the other side a banner was proudly shown which stated; “Zombies are fictional, Paedophiles are real.”

 

What strikes me about such things is that of those involved some many be parents with jobs, mortgages etc and yet they took time and effort and spent money to create such wit.

 

And talking of hard toil, in the early hours of Sunday morning the kerbs in the Gallowgate area of Glasgow, a strong Celtic stronghold, mysteriously turned red, white and blue. They were soon returned to green and white. Who has the energy? Who has the time?

 

The atavistic anthems are not going away. Neither are the add-ons with swear words about the Pope who got a mention from both ends, and it wasn't to praise the man for his humanitarian work or modernisation of the Catholic Church.

 

Rangers died, according to the Celtic support. As a retort, the Rangers end helpfully reminded us that Bobby Sands had also passed away.

 

There were very few songs about their actual teams or the players. Maybe that will come about in the 22nd century.

 

But there was one song which summed up what the actual story of the day was.

 

It wasn’t about religion, Ireland or even whether Mark Warburton does indeed have a magic hat.

 

“Sacked in the morning;” rang around the old lady of Mount Florida as Ronnie Deila stood on the touchline wondering what to. The Celtic fans didn’t join in but they were thinking it and wishing it.

 

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/14433239.It_wasn_t_the_toxic_atmosphere_many_predicted_but_perhaps_one_day_the_songs_at_an_Old_Firm_game_will_be_about_the_football/

[26th of foot 6,117]

It wasn't the toxic atmosphere many predicted but perhaps one day the songs at an Old Firm game will be about the football

 

A YEAR and a bit ago, when these two met for the first time in three years, Frankie Boyle sent out the following Tweet.

 

“I look forward to seeing the Old Firm fans stop debating corporate identities and get back to arguing about 17th Century Irish History.”

 

And at Hampden Park yesterday, there were plenty of songs about Ireland with a smattering of shouts of tax evasion and one or two ditties and banners that made you think; "Really?"

 

But do you want to know something? It was actually okay. Sure, there were moments of nastiness and a line was crossed more than once but it was miles better than last year’s game and that at least is something.

 

It wasn’t the awfulness some expected, and probably hoped it would be, and maybe the fact there were so many nerves about helped. Fans on both sides were too busy biting their nails instead of pouring out bile.

 

There was still some of that. It is, after all, the Old Firm game.

 

At 2-1 to Rangers and also at the end of their team's successful penalty shoot-out, the banned and oh-so-dreary Billy Boys was belted out and the Ibrox club really should get into bother about that. They were not “up to their knees” in EBTs as some will claim. It was the, cough, traditional lyric.

 

Just to balance things out, Celtic fans have been told about a thousand times not to bring pyrotechnics to games and the same folk, one would imagine, continually ignore the warnings and did just that. It’s almost as if they don’t care about their own club.

 

And then there were the banners.

 

One from the Celtic end, which came in three parts, ended with rather lovely quip; “Hun Scum Forever.” While at the other side a banner was proudly shown which stated; “Zombies are fictional, Paedophiles are real.”

 

What strikes me about such things is that of those involved some many be parents with jobs, mortgages etc and yet they took time and effort and spent money to create such wit.

 

And talking of hard toil, in the early hours of Sunday morning the kerbs in the Gallowgate area of Glasgow, a strong Celtic stronghold, mysteriously turned red, white and blue. They were soon returned to green and white. Who has the energy? Who has the time?

 

The atavistic anthems are not going away. Neither are the add-ons with swear words about the Pope who got a mention from both ends, and it wasn't to praise the man for his humanitarian work or modernisation of the Catholic Church.

 

Rangers died, according to the Celtic support. As a retort, the Rangers end helpfully reminded us that Bobby Sands had also passed away.

 

There were very few songs about their actual teams or the players. Maybe that will come about in the 22nd century.

 

But there was one song which summed up what the actual story of the day was.

 

It wasn’t about religion, Ireland or even whether Mark Warburton does indeed have a magic hat.

 

“Sacked in the morning;” rang around the old lady of Mount Florida as Ronnie Deila stood on the touchline wondering what to. The Celtic fans didn’t join in but they were thinking it and wishing it.

 

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/14433239.It_wasn_t_the_toxic_atmosphere_many_predicted_but_perhaps_one_day_the_songs_at_an_Old_Firm_game_will_be_about_the_football/

 

Neil Cameron is Yahoo supporting journo.

 

He came through the Record some 15 years past, the last couple of years has seen him join Alison McConnell at ra Herald/Evening Times.

 

Of course, one bitter Yahoo of a journo will reach for the well worn comfort blanket of Rangers supporters singing, in the wake of a Sellik defeat. Usually, it's Alison, Chris McLaughlin, Andrew H Smith, ....... etc that thumb that particular blanket. It must be Cameron's turn to be het.

 

Interestingly, his nick name in the press box is, 'Spook'. A dozen years ago, he had taken his car containing his bird into a grave yard late at night for some nocturnal gymnastics. The Polis caught him and his colleagues drew the correlation with the market company, 'Spook Erection'.

[craig 5,199]

Old Firm Scottish cup semi final... young Gedion Zelalem 19 years old on loan from Arsenal hasn't kicked a ball in weeks comes on in extra time and was cool as a cucumber bossing the middle of the park. Then in the sudden death part of the penalty shoot out steps up and nonchalantly strokes the ball into the net. That takes some stones from the kid. What a way to score your first goal for the club.

 

I think earlier in the thread someone said that Zelalem scared them when he came on as he was losing the ball or something like that (not trawling back through 35 pages to find it...). I was surprised at the comment because I thought Zelalem absolutely STROLLED it when he came on. He was a mature, calm head whilst others around him were all blood and snotters (yes, that would be you Scott Brown....). Zelalem played as if he was in a training exercise and just strolled it.

 

Was strong in possession, never missed a pass and, something which often gets ignored, he makes great angles to show for the ball - at one point Tavernier was advancing down the right hand side and came into 2 Celtic players, Zelalem made the smartest run by offering himself between the two players - unfortunately Tavernier went backwards but had he split the two Celtic players Zelalem had carved them open with one simple, smart run into a space which provided an easy angle for his team mate.

 

I thought the lad strolled it - and he made his penalty look like he was hitting it in training without a keeper in the net.

[craig 5,199]

The police have already said that there is no list of offensive words or songs. As far as I know "causing offence" is very much down to what the judge at court decides that day. What is offensive to one judge might not be seen that way by the judge in the court next door.

I find their banner offensive and would certainly be looking at punishment from the SFA.

 

I'm not offended by their banner at all, but then I am one of those people that believes the world has gone PC mad. We are sanitizing football to an unhealthy degree in Scotland.

 

I loved our 'WE BELONG TO GLASGOW" banner though

[ian1964 10,761]

I'm not offended by their banner at all, but then I am one of those people that believes the world has gone PC mad. We are sanitizing football to an unhealthy degree in Scotland.

 

I loved our 'WE BELONG TO GLASGOW" banner though

 

The reality is nobody is offended!,it's mock offended and just getting at Rangers fans

[ian1964 10,761]

I purchased the full match today from rangerstv but it is still coming up unavailable in the UK!,anybody any idea when I will be able to watch it?,I thought it would be available after mid day today!