The word h*n is not offensive

[ian1964 10,625]

Old Firm cops get DOs and DON’Ts banner briefing ahead of powderkeg match

 

OLD Firm cops are being given new banner briefings so they know who to nick at next month’s powderkeg match.

 

Officers will be given a new dossier to learn the “dos and don’ts” for supporters’ displays, including sectarian slogans and phrases linked to the IRA and loyalist paramilitary group UVF.

 

But the word h*n doesn’t feature in the briefing, deemed as “not offensive”.

 

Cops are due to be trained to recognise any dodgy banners - but one police source described working a Rangers-Celtic game as a “minefield”.

 

“In some cases, it will be obvious a banner is offensive however, some are not so obvious,” the insider said.

 

“This is why officers will be briefed on what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.

 

“Some fans will push it as far as they can and that’s when we need to assess the banner and decide whether it’s criminal or not acceptable. It can be a minefield.

 

“In terms of specific words, 'h*n' has not been classed as offensive but obviously we will look at the context in which the word is used.”

 

As well as offensive banners, cops are being taught to look out for lyrics of offensive songs as part of displays.

 

It’s understood lyrics to the Billy Boys, The Famine Song, Glasgow Celtic IRA and the Ibrox Disaster Song are among those cops have been briefed on.

 

Police preparations are well under way for the game, on the weekend of April 16/17 at Hampden Park.

 

The ancient rivals met last year and more than 35 football fans were arrested.

 

Critics have repeatedly called for the legislation to be axed.

 

Fans from both sides of the Old Firm divide recently united in calling for the scrapping of the controversial Offensive Behaviour at Football Act.

 

Demonstrations were held at stadiums across Scotland and banners were unfurled by scores of supporters.

 

A Police Scotland spokeswoman said: "It is standard practice, prior to any football match, for officers to be briefed on a number of issues, this can include flags, banners and pyrotechnic devices.

 

"These briefings are carried out in preparation for any football match and are not specific to an Old Firm Game."

 

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/6988579/Old-Firm-cops-get-DOs-and-DONTs-banner-briefing-ahead-of-powderkeg-match.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-ScottishSun-_-20160309-_-SunScotNews-_-390357561-_-Imageandlink

[boabie 230]

According to a mate who knows, cops working at a match are not briefed until the day of the game. This has obviously been leaked by somebody in the operational planning department.

[ian1964 10,625]

We should revert back to calling them Huns!............they are the original Huns....We should just replace the word ****** with Hun in the billy boys chant!...........

Edited March 9, 2016 by ian1964

[Bluedell 5,472]

Their colleagues in Northern Ireland disagree:

 

Fen'ian, hun, ta'ig and jaffa are among the terms outlawed for police officers in a pamphlet which outlines to them how to avoid causing offence.

 

Catholics should not be called fen'ians, ta'igs, chucks or spongers, while Protestants should not be referred to as huns, black, prods or jaffas, the booklet says.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7206891.stm

[RANGERRAB 3,461]

Welcome to Scotland 2016.

Run for the benefit of minorities who must not be offended in any way but they are free to do as they please

[ian1964 10,625]

[Tannochsidebear 2,373]

Typical of the gutter press to keep stoking away at this issue that has been done to death.

 

Everyone should know by now that hun or ****** on their own is not illegal, it is about the context used.

 

Hun bastards = jailed

****** bastards = jailed

Listen to they Huns singing their songs = ok

Look at the ******s leaving early again = ok

 

What is even less surprising about the article is the usual lack of balance. It is basically telling one side they are fine to call us huns without the balance or explanation about context.

 

As an aside, when I addressed the senior police officers at a meeting about this issue, and we went through the context issue, I am still waiting to hear of any time the word hun has been used in a complimentary fashion. My meaning being that if the adjective is always used in a negative connotation, and never used by ourselves when addressing each other, then the only thing left is that it is being used as an abusive term, which would be illegal. The powers that be refused to concede on this and blamed the top legal guy, who himself has used the term many times and will not concede its derogatory connotations or even enter into discussions about it, even when asked to do so by the now (2ic at the time) first minister. That told us everything required about it.

[Tannochsidebear 2,373]

Hey, WTF is this with f.e.n.i.a.n. Being blocked out but h.u.n. Is not? On our own site? Sort this out please admin.

[ian1964 10,625]

[pete 2,499]

Hey, WTF is this with f.e.n.i.a.n. Being blocked out but h.u.n. Is not? On our own site? Sort this out please admin.

 

Probably because Hun was used as discussion only by Rangers fans on here and Fen!an was used as a derogatory word and that is illegal and the site could get in trouble.