ranger_syntax 4,422 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Every time I read something like this I immediately offer up thanks to the Lord. Not everybody is fortunate enough to not be a football writer. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacK1950 2,399 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I read all the brown stuff that they write then sit back and wonder what sort of education or upbringing caused their brain malfunctions,still they are good for a laugh. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearman 9 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I guess it is a joke on Dave King as the Rand is the currency of South Africa. Yeah...and a good one too. No doubt the mhanky readers will be wetting their shellsuits over it. Can we not have a Rhecord free forum on here? I know I don't have to read it if I don't want to...but have some sort of warning in place beforehand...like "if you don't want to know the results, look away now or leave the room". That National Paper is so out of touch with the People on the street and we don't need it to move forward. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 His comments about the team in general and Tavernier and Zelalem in particular are spot on. Most telling perhaps is that our CB's are just NOT commanding. Think back to our best teams of recent years, we had Cuellar, Amoruso, Gough, Butcher and earlier Woodburn, Young, Meiklejohn, not to mention Ronnie McKinnon and Colin Jackson. They WERE commanding CB's. Now we have Rob Kiernan lately of Accrington Stanley, Burton Albion and Southend and Danny Wilson who doesn't seem anything like the player who left us five years ago. We've got a good goalie, now we need a top quality CB in front of him. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,821 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 His comments about the team in general and Tavernier and Zelalem in particular are spot on. Most telling perhaps is that our CB's are just NOT commanding. Think back to our best teams of recent years, we had Cuellar, Amoruso, Gough, Butcher and earlier Woodburn, Young, Meiklejohn, not to mention Ronnie McKinnon and Colin Jackson. They WERE commanding CB's. Now we have Rob Kiernan lately of Accrington Stanley, Burton Albion and Southend and Danny Wilson who doesn't seem anything like the player who left us five years ago. We've got a good goalie, now we need a top quality CB in front of him. That's an unfair comparison. Those 'commanding' CB's of yesteryear would be equally as bad in the current side. We are exposed at the back because we play offensive football and therefore those guys you've mentioned would be ripped to shreds, or give away foul after foul. We may be better at set pieces but in open-play we'd be just as bad. The older guys I never saw, but Cuellar, Amoruso, Gough, Butcher etc., I don't recall being ball-players; another deficiency that makes them unsuitable for our current style. We need a different type of CB to those you've mentioned and we need to stop comparing them. Kiernan is the right 'type' of player we need, just not at the level. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabie 230 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The older guys I never saw, but Cuellar, Amoruso, Gough, Butcher etc., I don't recall being ball-players As a side note to the debate I remember a discussion with a fellow bear many years ago about Ronnie McKinnon who he described as a " no nonsense centre half who always simply booted the ball up the park." He changed his mind when I showed him a recording of England v Scotland 1967 at Wembley. Ronnie was always much more than a hoofer. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 6,161 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 You're right, boabie. Ronnie could play. Post Woodburn/Young I don't think we've had a better centre half though I'm eternally grateful to Willie Telfer. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) As a side note to the debate I remember a discussion with a fellow bear many years ago about Ronnie McKinnon who he described as a " no nonsense centre half who always simply booted the ball up the park." He changed his mind when I showed him a recording of England v Scotland 1967 at Wembley. Ronnie was always much more than a hoofer. Ronnie McKinnon was the best at tackling back that I have ever seen, he seemed to be able to extend his legs as if on jet springs. If anyone of that era was a no nonsense player I'd say it was Colin Jackson. Make no mistake, McKinnon was an imperious centre half who could play more than a bit of football. Edited December 28, 2015 by BrahimHemdani 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabie 230 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Ronnie McKinnon was the best at tackling back that I have ever seen, he seemed to be able to extend his legs as if on jet springs. If anyone of that era was a no nonsense player I'd say it was Colin Jackson. Make no mistake, McKinnon was an imperious centre half who could play more than a bit of football. I can only ever remember Ronnie making a couple of mistakes in all the time I watched him. The cup final when the clatties scored with 2 penalties being one of course. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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