BEARGER 1,830 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Wonder if Ally read this, specially bit in bold. He said: “We haven’t scored a goal from a header but I think only two teams have so it’s a bit of a grey area. “There are not that many headers in the game these days. We’re not going to throw the ball into the box and try to win it because the likelihood is we won’t get first contact. “You see teams bringing 11 men back for a corner and that’s the one that confuses me most because if they win the first contact then it is 100 per cent going to go to the opposition so why do it? “People ask why we leave two up at a corner but it’s not rocket science. It’s what works for you. We would far rather be careful and keep the ball and our chances of scoring are far higher if we do that and create an opening. “It was the same at Brentford last year. We had Alan Judge, Alex Pritchard and Jota – all small guys – playing against man mountains so there was no point in throwing the ball into the box because all we would do was give away possession. “We are not blessed with two six-foot forwards in our team so why whack a hopeful ball into the box and make the opposition centre-half look good? “Just keep the ball. For us to throw in a hopeful ball when the right or left-back gets the ball and punts it into the box serves no purpose at all.” 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 It's almost beyond parody how antithetical he is compared to what we are used to. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,673 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 So simple. It's amazing how many would overlook something so simple, just because it's what usually happens. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 860 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Its very true though, we all hate long ball football, hitting corners into a box is similar. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannochsidebear 2,420 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 So why do we insist on sending up both centre halfs for corners when we have no intention of putting the ball into the box aerially? Surely it is best, if this is the approach, to keep your best defenders back at the half-way line, and put your best attacking players in the dangerous areas? It is fine being so analytical about possession statistics, but there has to be an end product to possession or you end up being a busy fool. Perhaps if we concentrated more on shooting from the edge of the box (apart from in the warm-up) we might have better success for our possession, and defenders would have more than one thing to think about. At the moment when Zelalem or Oduwa get the abll at the edge of the box, the only certainty is that they are not going to shoot. That makes it much easier to defend against. I noticed at Morton that these two dont even take part in the shooty-in at the end of the warm-up, they just stood hitting lame 10 yard passes to each other. Not that I put much emphasis into the shooty-in as it looks like just a bit of fun for the players after the serious warm-up stuff and before the kick-off, but to not take part and then not to even shoot despite many opportunities to do so is looking more like a fault in their game which hopefully can be addressed during their time with us as I think both could score goals from the edge of the box, or create rebounds for the strikers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno55 0 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 JBs view on corners.. Stop our two centre backs going up for corners that way we won't get caught on the break lol simples...... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,582 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) So why do we insist on sending up both centre halfs for corners when we have no intention of putting the ball into the box aerially? Surely it is best, if this is the approach, to keep your best defenders back at the half-way line, and put your best attacking players in the dangerous areas? It is fine being so analytical about possession statistics, but there has to be an end product to possession or you end up being a busy fool. Perhaps if we concentrated more on shooting from the edge of the box (apart from in the warm-up) we might have better success for our possession, and defenders would have more than one thing to think about. At the moment when Zelalem or Oduwa get the abll at the edge of the box, the only certainty is that they are not going to shoot. That makes it much easier to defend against. I noticed at Morton that these two dont even take part in the shooty-in at the end of the warm-up, they just stood hitting lame 10 yard passes to each other. Not that I put much emphasis into the shooty-in as it looks like just a bit of fun for the players after the serious warm-up stuff and before the kick-off, but to not take part and then not to even shoot despite many opportunities to do so is looking more like a fault in their game which hopefully can be addressed during their time with us as I think both could score goals from the edge of the box, or create rebounds for the strikers. To be fair it's good to have the option of putting the ball in if we need to. And we certainly should have scored from one or two direct corners so far - I remember Wilson and Waghorn both missing with relatively easy headers at home from corners. On the other hand, I think the penalty from last week's game came from a short corner so these do work to our benefit from time to time. We're still a work in progress so we can only hope all the small issues that are evident are addressed going forward. Edited October 2, 2015 by Frankie 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisabeer 409 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Im not going to argue with warbs.. if the man doesnt want the ball lumped into the box then it doesnt happen. End of. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aweebluesoandso 290 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I love the way we are playing, fast paced possession football, with good passing. But when it comes to corners old school for me, wang it in and get a header on to it. Got to keep a bit of tradition hah. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno55 0 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Correct wee so&so you'll never see a better header than hateleys against the sheep when he outjumped big eck to win us the title from a mark Walters cross....ahhh the memories 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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