Bruno55 0 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Allys mediocre management skills got his team through a season undefeated....lol 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,743 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 You didn't answer me in the last topic about this. Do you think we are going to play this system in Europe? I.E. play in Europe with two ultra-attacking full backs? With our two 'ultra attacking full backs' why don't we play 3-5-2 ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Allys mediocre management skills got his team through a season undefeated....lol There is something to ponder. If a "useless" manager can do that with two hands tied behind his back, what praise can we give to all the others who have achieved not much more when things have been a lot more conducive? I like to think we have some history, so why shit on it. You can really see the memes changing in here - eg last year Clark was shit because of the manager, now he's just shit, and the manager is great... It's quite amusing... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Ally wasn't as good as a mediocre manager. Nowhere near it, absolutely appalling and he will never work in management again. It's not for him. Clear as day to anyone. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) With our two 'ultra attacking full backs' why don't we play 3-5-2 ? Aside from minnows in the Europa League, I cannot see us playing 3 at the back against anyone in Europe, regardless of what happens in the next few years. Even the English Premiership teams are struggling massively in the CL group stages, the continental teams are way ahead of even the best teams in British football. I don't see why we can't just play a bog standard back 4 with sufficient balance, varying the attacking mentality based on the opposition. One of my favourite back 4's of recent years is what Ancelotti had in his hugely successful Milan team in the 00's: LB - Maldini - world class defender, solid as a rock. CB - Nesta - Terrific all round CB, one of my favourite of all time, though injuries ruined his later career. Very calm and composed, comfortable on the ball. CB - Stam - Extremely powerful, uncompromising centre back. RB - Cafu - Attacking full back, one of the greatest of all time This defence had the perfect balance. Edited October 2, 2015 by Ser Barristan Selmy 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,823 Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 You didn't answer me in the last topic about this. Do you think we are going to play this system in Europe? I.E. play in Europe with two ultra-attacking full backs? Sorry, I thought I did. Yes, I do think we'll be playing that way. It's crucial to the Warburton Philosophy. The implications could be quite destructive -- losing a few goals, as you suggested --, but if managed correctly, it can work. I saw Astana play Galatasaray with 2 aggressive full-backs, leaving 2 at the back, with a deep DM (or Pivot). It happens quite often; it's about how one manages it IMO. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,823 Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 With our two 'ultra attacking full backs' why don't we play 3-5-2 ? I suggested similar in the previous article: switching to a back 3, to utilise the spare-man philosophy, whereby we would set-up to with a back 3 or back 2 (centre-backs), depending on what the opposition has up front. I suggested 3-4-3, because it is easier to transition to from the 4-3-3 we play. Playing with a back 3 could provide us with the cover we need at the back to compensate for our attacking full-backs. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,823 Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Aside from minnows in the Europa League, I cannot see us playing 3 at the back against anyone in Europe, regardless of what happens in the next few years. Even the English Premiership teams are struggling massively in the CL group stages, the continental teams are way ahead of even the best teams in British football. I don't see why we can't just play a bog standard back 4 with sufficient balance, varying the attacking mentality based on the opposition. One of my favourite back 4's of recent years is what Ancelotti had in his hugely successful Milan team in the 00's: LB - Maldini - world class defender, solid as a rock. CB - Nesta - Terrific all round CB, one of my favourite of all time, though injuries ruined his later career. Very calm and composed, comfortable on the ball. CB - Stam - Extremely powerful, uncompromising centre back. RB - Cafu - Attacking full back, one of the greatest of all time This defence had the perfect balance. That seems unbalanced to me! (It's a back 3 when in possession!) To be fair, when Milan attacked it was 3-4-1-2. British sides play a bog-standard back 4, so by your argument they have the perfect balance (in the sense that they don't roam too much)? but then you also say they are miles behind the continental sides? I think British sides are poor in comparison to continental sides because they are one-dimensional in attack. Aggressive full-backs, providing width and options, would improve that -- if managed correctly. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno55 0 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Personally if we play two centre backs at the back we'll get murdered especially the two we've got just now cos they play far too apart from each other and they need to stop these 40 yard jig passes 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Sorry, I thought I did. Yes, I do think we'll be playing that way. It's crucial to the Warburton Philosophy. The implications could be quite destructive -- losing a few goals, as you suggested --, but if managed correctly, it can work. I saw Astana play Galatasaray with 2 aggressive full-backs, leaving 2 at the back, with a deep DM (or Pivot). It happens quite often; it's about how one manages it IMO. You would play this in the Champions League as well? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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