Malmo vs Ra Sellick

[Bearman 9]

Guys on Fox Sports in their analysis of the game saying Delia is uninspiring as a manager and sellik are lacking in competition at domestic level missing the challenge of Rangers.

 

Tell us something we don't already know lads. The mhedia in this country don't like to tell you that.

[der Berliner 3,716]

Didn't see it, but chaps on the German boar said that their goal wasn't given for obstruction (according to German livetext),while Griffiths should have walked with a straight-re dchallenge, and Bitton too for at least two yellow-worthy fouls.

 

Let's just hope they are not saved by some ridiculous transfer fee for van Dijk.

[Ser Barristan Selmy 222]

As pleasing as it is to see Celtic get beat, at the end of the day Scottish football needs a thriving old firm. I can't think of any league in Europe that has just one team that regularly earns a good coefficient. As things stand teams like Malmo are now considerably ahead of us.

[Bearman 9]

 

Let's just hope they are not saved by some ridiculous transfer fee for van Dijk.

 

They lost a goal from a corner kick at the P Drome for 2-3, tonight both goals conceded were from corners...

 

Undisclosed fee then.

[26th of foot 6,054]

It's not over until the team lines are fully scrutinised.

 

In saying that, ra Yahoos must be PIG sick.

[Bearman 9]

We don't need Rangers, we'd rather play 6 CL matches any day.

 

Oops!!!

[BrahimHemdani 1]

I think this is a good result for Rangers and Scotland; those who know my views will know what's coming next.

 

Rangers and Scotland both need Celtic to do well in Europe for the coefficient. Right now Scotland are 23rd; the last time we were in the top 20 was when we were in Europe, albeit not very successfully in 2011/12. Below 18th means that Europa league entrants other than CW start in Q1. Below 15th means Champions start in CL Q2. We (Scotland) are 5 points short of 18th but every point any of our Clubs earns is divided by the 4 entrants, so we need 20 points (10 wins) more than the countries above us this season as the system works a year behind, it will be the 2015/16 placings that are relevant if we get back in Europe in 2017/18 (the Club coefficient for 2016/17 will determine seedings for 2017/18, when ours will be more or less non-existent other than a 20% share of the country figures. Actually that will work for us because we will be better than a lot of the the teams with virtually no coefficient ).

 

So far this season Celtic have scored 10.5 points, which is almost twice as many as the other three teams put together (5.5). They would have been in Pot 4 if they had qualified for the CL Group Stages; but will be in Pot 2 (just) where they will face one Spurs, Bilbao, Ajax or Borussia Dortmund level team but their matches against Pot 3 and 4 teams will be eminently winnable. It's hard to imagine that they would have won many games in the CL Group stages but it's not beyond the realms of imagination to see them winning 3 or 4 group games in the EL and going through to the last 32. It's highly unlikley they'll win 10 games but 5 or 6 is not beyond the bounds of possiblity. Teams that qualify for the EL Group stage get a minimum starter for 2 which are not added to the 2 points for a win. Even if they don't do enough to boost Scotland's ranking sufficently to improve the starting positions in the CL and EL it will be a help for later seasons after we get back. It's worth remembering that we scored 22 points in 2007/08 (despite 7 draws and 5 losses in 19 matches) and Scotland were 5th amassing the same average as Italy that season.

 

Now I know full well that this type of analysis is anathema to the likes of Zappa and many others who will argue "we don't need them/we can do it ourselves" etc etc but this is not supported by the facts. The facts, as I have demonstrated in the past, show that when Celtic had their great runs in the Uefa Cup it helped us to a better start in Europe and vice versa our 2008 performances.

 

Now I'll run for cover.

[colinstein 294]

I thought Gordon stopped a lot of sure things....impressive goal keeping

but Hartson seemed to be blaming him for not cutting out the crosses that led to the goals

[Bearman 9]

A lot has been made of our failure to build from the expulsion we got shafting us into the depths of Scottish Football.

 

The failure of the game itself is down to the 'vote' delivered back in 2012. C*ltic have failed big time yet again. They thought get rid of Rangers and Champions League football is all ours. The future of Scottish football wasn't even considered in the first place, just those with the dark hidden history which must never be discussed.

 

Isn't it just joyful that all these with a bigoted outlook get one right up them?

[BrahimHemdani 1]

As pleasing as it is to see Celtic get beat, at the end of the day Scottish football needs a thriving old firm. I can't think of any league in Europe that has just one team that regularly earns a good coefficient. As things stand teams like Malmo are now considerably ahead of us.

 

True.

 

Last season (for this season's seedings) Celtic were 55th with 39.08 points, we were 117th with 17.08 (clinging on to 12.72 from 2010/11 run to the EL last 16) and our 2011/12 conquerors Malmo 142nd with 12.54.

 

Currently, Celtic are 43rd with 39.13, Malmo are 100th with 16.85 and we are 263rd (level with Dundee Utd) with just the couple of points we scored in 2011/12 at home to Maribor and Malmo and share of Scotland's points for all the succeeding years we have been out of Europe.

 

As things stand now, with only a share of Scotland's points to look forward to next season and beyond till we get back, we are looking at being below 300th in the rankings; Celtic are provisionally 35th and Malmo 92nd.