the gunslinger 3,366 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'd rather have Cummings Cracking player as well. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearman 9 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 We don't really need him if truth be told and we'll get him for nothing at the end of the season, but as GIRUY's go it would be nice for Rangers and their fans to get him now! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,761 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Dempster quiet on Scott Allan ‘verbal agreement’ By MOIRA GORDON HIBERNIAN chief executive Leeann Dempster has refused to quash claims the club has reneged on a verbal agreement with midfielder Scott Allan to allow him to move on if a “bigger club” came in for him. The assurance was allegedly given when the player joined the Easter Road outfit last summer but, while he wants the club to act on it and has handed in a written transfer request in the hope of a move to Rangers, Hibs are adamant they will not sell their key man to Championship rivals Rangers. Dempster said: “I would never discuss the content of a player contract or the discussions around a player contract. “I won’t confirm or deny any of that.” Hibs manager Alan Stubbs said he was not party to any of the discussions but questioned the wisdom of relying on a promise that is not committed to writing. “I wasn’t involved in that discussion so I can’t comment on something if I wasn’t there. To be honest, there have been a lot of things coming out in the press. But I don’t know where they have come from. “If I would have promised him, it would have been in writing. And I would advise any player out there, never have a verbal agreement with anybody.” I would advise any player out there, never have a verbal agreement with anybody Alan Stubbs But he added that he thought the club had dealt with the situation “fantastically well and with the utmost respect and a lot of dignity” and despite the fact the club are expected to tie up the signing of John McGinn today, Stubbs reiterated the club would not be allowing Allan to move to Ibrox. “The transfer request is not a personal indictment on me. It is just Scott doing what he is getting told do and what he feels he can do to push the move. But it is irrelevant. It is not going to change anything. I will not fall out with Scott Allan. I will not lose any respect for Scott Allan whatsoever. As far as I’m concerned, he is still a vital member of my squad. The transfer request doesn’t change our position as a football club. We will not do business with Rangers. I don’t how clear I have to be.” In the wake of vitriolic social media attacks on Allan, which the club has condemned, Dempster also stressed that there was no ill feeling between the board and the player but added that no one should expect the Easter Road club to change their stance. “He’s within his rights to ask for a transfer, as any player is, and we’re quite within our rights to refuse that. The request has come from a team many perceive to be one of our biggest rivals for promotion this season. It’s a pretty straightforward situation. We’re now trying to get back to football and Scott is very much part of our plans.” Dempster also hailed the club’s achievement in securing Stubbs and his coaching staff on extended deals, claiming it illustrates the “idea of continuity and ambition and the fact we’re looking to the future”. She added that the club had “been thinking about the bigger ambition and direction of the club and I believe that what Alan and his team have done deserves a new deal. For us it’s about having them committed to the club and I think it’s a massive statement.” http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/dempster-quiet-on-scott-allan-verbal-agreement-1-3845875 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC 150 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Is Stubbs openly admitting here that whatever he guarantees only verbally is likely to be a pack of lies/just made up at the time. Some "dignity ", that.... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,823 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 If this 'verbal agreement' was inserted into his contract, what actually constitutes a 'bigger club'? Of course, Rangers are, but if another side came in, like Aberdeen (of which there have been rumours), would they be considered a 'bigger club?' It's a terrible 'agreement'/clause in any case because it's so subjective. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anchorman 0 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 So basically he is saying to Allan - "how can we sell you to our nearest rivals? We could make far more out of going up next year that the money we could get for you. It makes no sense. Stay and help us do that". Scott Allan says to himself "OK I could wait and sign a pre-contract with a bigger club i.e my boyhood heroes Rangers. But wait a minute - I'm being asked to help condemn the team I'm going to sign for to Championship football again next year, while the team I'm leaving goes up". Rock and a hard place, but how can his heart be really in it for the remainder of the season. Could he continue to play for Hibs at his maximum hoping Rangers don't go up automatically? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,815 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Essentially, this is nothing new and happened and happens all over the planet. Usually, you look for common sense between parties and more often than not, this will be the case. Not much different with Danny Wilson, BTW, with regards to him helping Hearts to the title against the team he was to join a bit later. From the sound of it, Hibs reneged on a verbal agreement and this will probably dampen any further discussions between player and club. Still some four weeks to go though. As I said before, if it does not happen now, you would think that W&W will still expect Allan to display a professional attitude, even if it works against us. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aweebluesoandso 290 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 My advice to Allan Stubbs would be, stop digging pal, that hole you have created for you and your club is big enough now. Just lie in it and we'll fill it in Absolute arse of a man and his club are just as bad. . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascender 352 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 If it wasn't in his contract then he's pretty much on a hiding to nothing, so he should be having words with his agent. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hibs manager Alan Stubbs said he was not party to any of the discussions but questioned the wisdom of relying on a promise that is not committed to writing. “I wasn’t involved in that discussion so I can’t comment on something if I wasn’t there. To be honest, there have been a lot of things coming out in the press. But I don’t know where they have come from. “If I would have promised him, it would have been in writing. And I would advise any player out there, never have a verbal agreement with anybody.” But he added that he thought the club had dealt with the situation “fantastically well and with the utmost respect and a lot of dignity” What a total and utter bawbag. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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