rbr 1,267 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 But you have to start from somewhere GS , we aren't in a perfect world and if in the short term we use loan players so be it , I don't want us to do down the Celtic route 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Bear 0 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Last year we had an absolutely incompetent management team. So it's an entirely different situation. They have been able to bring in some of their own players, spending a lot of cash compared to the other teams in the division. Those couple of eye catching loan players will need replaced in one year, providing us with no long term benefit. There's nothing to guarantee they will be any better than our own player. So if we have a competent management team now, we should let them get on with the job of deciding what they need and how best to bring it in within the budget available and the three year plan they themselves have laid out. If we were talking about a team full of loanees I'd agree with you, but I'm entirely relaxed about one or two. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 we must be in the top ten teams in europe for the amount of youth we have promoted into the first team squad in the last couple of years. the likes of ajax aim for 2/3 every 2 years to be promoted from youth into first team squad. I know circumstance has dictated but still an impressive amount of youth has progressed. Are you being serious? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Radamel Falcao is just one example , the EPL was littered with loanees last year , 2 years ago Watford had a near entire squad of loanees , prompting a change in the rules Falcao was with a view to a permanent transfer. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,114 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Steven Davis was a loan initially. Is there now a rule that bans us from signing loaned players permanently? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) I doubt if anyone out of contract at the end of next season will be kept. If anything I think they'll be encouraged to find new clubs now Four of the 10 players out of contract next June will be over 30, so it wouldn't surprise me if those players aren't given new deals/extensions, but I think it might be quite foolish if the manager didn't consider giving a few of the younger lads out of contract next June a contract extension or new deal before January. Walsh, Gasparotto and Gallagher all fall into that category. Edited July 12, 2015 by Zappa 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Are you being serious? Talking about youth players not young players.doesn't matter if they are regulars or sit on the bench they still count as moving up. Those that have went from semi pro contracts to pro and went in as first team squad players. I bet we are very high over the last few years. Walsh, Murdoch,McKay,Gallagher,Hardie ,mcloed off the top of my head. Think there is a few more than that. That's actually a lot mate. As I said the likes of ajax only aim for 2 or 3 every 2 years and they are quite prolific.especially if you count what we spend on our academy in comparison. How many other teams can you think of that have had 5 or more in 2\3 years. Edit* aird sinnamon gasparrato there's more but having a mental block Edited July 12, 2015 by trublusince1982 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Steven Davis was a loan initially. Is there now a rule that bans us from signing loaned players permanently? if it's with a view to buying or better still an option it's okay. But that's not what we're looking at here. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,771 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Promotion is our number one priority next season followed by the SC for EL entry. Quite honestly I dont think it matters if we have eleven loan signings so long as these are achieved. The season after next will be taken care of next summer when we plan/rebuild for the top flight and hopefully our return to Europe 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,114 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 if it's with a view to buying or better still an option it's okay. But that's not what we're looking at here. In an ideal world I'd be inclined to agree but we need to realise just exactly where we are at this juncture. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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