pete 2,499 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 No wonder folk with brains go elsewhere. Thank you very much sir! To be honest I think the people with brains would stay and try and change things from the inside. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinstein 294 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 In internationals after Scotland, I support the home Nations. Northern Ireland, Wales and England. After that I'd support Eire because they're part of the British Isles, speak English and lots of them are here in the UK 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca72 440 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Because who you support should be very little to do with who you believe is best equipped to run a nation. What an insulated way of looking at things. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-striker-john-guidetti-gets-5608812 ... " THE SFA have today given John Guidetti a slap on the wrist for singing "the huns are deid". Hampden chiefs ruled he was guilty of making a "comment of an offensive nature". But they stopped short of handing him a ban and instead censured him. The SFA have now stated quite clearly that the word 'HUN' is offensive. The Offensive Behaviour Act states that a person using offensive behaviour in or near a football ground is breaking the law. We know that the CFC fans sing this song many times during a football match and yet nothing is done. According to 26th of foot in post#6 he states that "The Lord Advocate, Frank Mulholland has let it be known to PFs, that he is NOT interested in pursuing anyone for usage of the 'H' term. The Justice Minister, Michael Mathieson agrees. The Police have been informed.". Maybe that is why nothing is done about the fact that the CFC fans sing the song of, 'Go Home Ya Huns'. To summarize at this point, the SNP government bring in an Act to curb offensive behaviour at football matches, the footballing authorities - namely the SFA - have decided that the term 'HUN' is offensive, however, the judiciary in the form of the Lord Advocate and the Justice Minister have decided that for their purposes the word 'HUN', although proven to be offensive by others - namely the SFA and the fans of the team to whom the offence is directed - shall not be acted upon as a possible source of inciting a riot or any other severe public disorder (quite how they come to that conclusion I'm not clear). Okay, let's look at a different angle. The word '******' has in the past been proved to be political in nature and yet has been deemed to be offensive ( whether sectarian or not) when the sheriff has decided that when it is sung the singer does not mean ****** but does in fact mean catholic and hence for his purposes if you are a 24 year old man and on your way to a football match you can in fact be jailed for singing a political word which the sheriff decides is offensive enough to cause a possible public disturbance and even a riot. Perhaps someone would tell me why a government, the SNP, would introduce an act - the OBA, and then let individuals summarily decide which words deserve to be treated as actionable under the law and which words are not. Is the law to be used to maintain public order by the government - and therefore without fear or favour on any particular sect of the populace - or only in a selective manner as decided by individuals within the judiciary. Who is running the show here, the government or someone else? If you have any particular doubt as to the clarity of purpose of the way the government is upholding its own laws, would you not then have an intense interest in the character of those people the incumbent party would allow to stand as their representatives in the coming election, perhaps candidates like Brendan 0'Hara who are known to have used the offensive term of 'Hun' in the past? Further, if the government can successfully ( it would seem ) navigate through the mire that is the state of the law above, then one is left to wonder what is next to come down the pipe for the unoffensively ( for some) termed Huns. It would seem unlikely that what football team you support would be a factor in deciding what political candidate would be best suited to represent your community, however, as we can see with this present government and the obvious inconsistencies in its laws, that may no longer be the case whether you consider that insular or not. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 10,812 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) The Tories are currently showing a lot of anit-Scottish feeling, and being incredibly insulting to us. Why would a Scotsman vote for them? Luckily, most Scots are wise enough not to. I imagine those that do must generally be high earners who want to avoid more tax and public spending on those less well off. They put their money before their country. Sarcasm? Subjectivity? You're calling Conservative voters stupid? (This thread is going to have to be moved: it's turning into another political debate!) Edit: I actually feel the same about SNP voters, in the sense I hope Scots are wise enough to see through their rhetoric and propaganda. Who's right I wonder? Or are we both unduly subjective? Edited April 30, 2015 by Rousseau 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Sarcasm? Subjectivity? You're calling Conservative voters stupid? (This thread is going to have to be moved: it's turning into another political debate!) Edit: I actually feel the same about SNP voters, in the sense I hope Scots are wise enough to see through their rhetoric and propaganda. Who's right I wonder? Or are we both unduly subjective? Yes you are right can we get back on the topic of the thread please. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinstein 294 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Yes you are right can we get back on the topic of the thread please. why no statement from the SFA 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearman 9 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 D'ye think after today's verdict there'll be a large police presence at ti*mys next match and many arrests, before, during and after the game? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Keith Jackson on twitter For those asking, now looks very much like a decision on Dave King's fit and proper status will lapse over into next week. ⏳ 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca72 440 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 [quote=colinstein;565593 James Connolly was a socialist and would not have supported what became of the south of Ireland dominated by a religious sect. I haven't got a problem with that banner in the photograph. To paint Connolly as a beneficent socialist only is incorrect. For his socialist work he no doubt deserves credit. But the man was also a leader in the 1916 Easter uprising. James Connolly was born in June 1868. Connolly was born in Edinburgh, Scotland. His parents were originally from County Monaghan. The area he lived in was nicknamed ‘Little Ireland’ and was one of the city’s slum areas. In an effort to bring on board Connolly and to tame his more wild displays of militancy, the IRB ( Irish Republican Brotherhood ) took him into their confidence. Connolly was told about the planned rebellion for Easter 1916. After this, Connolly took an active part in the preparations and he was appointed Military Commander of the Republican Forces in Dublin, which encompassed the Irish Citizens Army. When the rebellion started on Monday 24th April, James Connolly was one of the seven signatories to the Proclamation. Connolly was in charge of the General Post Office during the rebellion – the rebels headquarters. It is worth pointing out that the group carrying Connolly's banner also include banner holders of the Irish tricolour and the IRA Lily. No doubt the SNP are truly grateful that they have the support of these terrorist sympathisers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thank you very much sir! To be honest I think the people with brains would stay and try and change things from the inside. we are doing 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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