Calm before the storm - focus on SFA

[calscot 0]

I'll say again, I see as much if not more anit-Scottish racism in England than the other way round in Scotland. A lot of the English have a pretty superior attitude and don't give a crap about the other home nations. Many of them think they have English passports, that's how British they are.

 

The Tories are currently showing a lot of anit-Scottish feeling, and being incredibly insulting to us. Why would a Scotsman vote for them? Luckily, most Scots are wise enough not to. I imagine those that do must generally be high earners who want to avoid more tax and public spending on those less well off. They put their money before their country.

 

I can't imagine the SNP could even consider being the slightest anti-protestant. It's the default "religion" of the country they want to become independent. That just doesn't make sense. However, I suppose polls have shown that most Scots are not really religious at all, and so protestants could possibly now be a small minority.

[der Berliner 3,803]

On a sidenote, I don't think that there is "racism" involved either here, of when we taunt the Yahoos faux-Irishness. At best it is nationalist, as you have a Scottish, English and Irish "nation", though nationalism usually is self-protective rather than as downright offensive as racism is.

 

Whether what is being done at rugby or football matches is echoed in "real life" between the English, Scots, Welsh and Irish is beyond my scope though, but generally I doubt there is a general all-encompassing judgment possible on this?

[Calgacus 8]

Any time the English national football team, rugby team, cricket team etc are playing the petty little jacobites are out in their droves vocally supporting the opposition. All SNP'ers I'd bet.

And the total lack of respect for the UK national anthem at recent games at Hampden was another example of the hatred shown by these people

 

That's more down to the fact that we share a tv networks with them and know that if they do win we're going to have to suffer their gloating for months or years to come. Besides don't we usually hope the opposition will win when Celtic are playing,? that's just part of sporting rivalry...

[Bluedell 5,679]

Apology accepted

 

Has it really aligned itself with Irish republicanism or have there simply been a few instances of it (serious question as I don't follow politics to any great extent back home) ?

Most of the outdoor rallies before the referendum had people with references to it. There were many photos online at the time. The clapping of a terrorist supporting band playing "Going home, British soldiers" as it walked past the cenotaph at the recent George Square rally tells you all you need to know. Facebook is riddled with the connections and I've stopped following a few people because of it.

 

 

 

Would this also mean rejecting Labour on the grounds that John Reid is as anti-Rangers, pro-Republicanism as is possible ?

 

That's up to others to make that judgement.

 

So the only options are the Tories (who seem to be showing anti-Scottish leanings by not following through on the promises of the referendum vote)

Sorry, but I don't see how you come to that conclusion. Even if they didn't eventually follow up on their statement, how is that anti-Scottish? It may be anti-nationalist, but I'd argue it would be in Scotland's best interests for them not to.

 

Is the SNP really anti-Protestant or are we being overly dramatic over a couple of isolated instances ?

I didn't say that they were anti-Protestant. They don't seem to mind about anti-Protestant sectarian abuse though.

[Bluedell 5,679]

examples please? I'll pass them on to my local SNP councillor.

 

Lovely lassie. From Derbyshire.

 

 

but in case you are, here's an advert that brings nationality into it.

 

[Bluedell 5,679]

I'll say again, I see as much if not more anit-Scottish racism in England than the other way round in Scotland.

A poor attempt at justification.

[colinstein 294]

"The day has passed for patching up the capitalist system; it must go. And in the work of abolishing it the Catholic and the Protestant, the Catholic and the Jew, the Catholic and the Freethinker, the Catholic and the Buddhist, the Catholic and the Mahometan will co-operate together, knowing no rivalry but the rivalry of endeavour toward an end beneficial to all. For, as we have said elsewhere, socialism is neither Protestant nor Catholic, Christian nor Freethinker, Buddhist, Mahometan, nor Jew; it is only Human. We of the socialist working class realise that as we suffer together we must work together that we may enjoy together. We reject the firebrand of capitalist warfare and offer you the olive leaf of brotherhood and justice to and for all."

 

James Connolly was a socialist and would not have supported what became of the south of Ireland dominated by a religious sect. I haven't got a problem with that banner in the photograph.

[compo 7,198]

politics is a dirty word

[Hildy 0]

I spent time recently with a group of colleagues who are enthusiastically nationalist.

 

Two things they discussed.

 

First, they had a laugh when Nicola Sturgeon suggested that she would favour England against Germany in a football match. They believed that she would be staunchly behind Germany - because they most certainly would be.

 

Secondly, re current talk of tactical voting - they think this is some kind of establishment plot. Basically, if the SNP doesn't sweep the board, it will be to do with some form of anti-SNP vote-rigging.

[Scott7 6,158]

No wonder folk with brains go elsewhere.