BrahimHemdani 1 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I don't want to sound like a Govan Jeremiah, but can you seriously not 'see the issue' on this? I'm not being stroppy - I can't see how anyone can see this as anything other than harmful, in terms of long term team building, in terms of managerial strategy (useless though he is, this is unlikely to improve McDowell's mood,), in terms of relations with the SFA...it's possible that on the pitch we'll see an improvement but, as in the 'missing the point' How Far Are We Behind thread, survival issues must surely take precedence over a few wins over Alloa or Dumbarton? I do see the BIG ISSUE, here, of course I do. But right now, we're in severe jeopardy of not getting back to the SPFL next season, and that would be a disaster of major proportions, especially if the only two Grade A games are removed next season by Hearts and Hibs going up. So I beg to differ, my good friend. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 There's absolutely no way we can afford to pay even half of the wages for these loan signings, so either Newcastle are paying all or most of their wages or we're being ripped off yet again. It's that simple. Not only that, but we need a proper manager to turn this season around and gain promotion otherwise we'll have disgruntled players, dressing room unrest and virtually no chance of promotion barring some divine interventions. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 The wages might be added to the debt? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 4,231 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) The wages might be added to the debt? Great. Anyways, I'm very surprised by the loan signings. In terms of the football alone I hope that this leads to an improvement. Apart from that I'm very suspicious of the deal. Is it wise to take a loan of money from Mike Ashley and then use it to pay wages for players from his other club? I would say not. Particularly as we don't even have enough money to pay the existing squad without borrowing money from him. Edited February 3, 2015 by ranger_syntax 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinstein 294 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 The wages might be added to the debt? will they use up all that loan money before the EGM and go to Ashley for more ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinstein 294 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Richard Wilson said on radio tonight that he thought these players were good. There followed a discussion where it was implied these players had been on the table before, had been taken off, and were now back on again. Has a deal been done with Ashley ? Is it possible Dave King is here this week to tie it up ? Guess we'll know tomorrow 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy steel 0 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I do see the BIG ISSUE, here, of course I do. But right now, we're in severe jeopardy of not getting back to the SPFL next season, and that would be a disaster of major proportions, especially if the only two Grade A games are removed next season by Hearts and Hibs going up. So I beg to differ, my good friend. I'm not certain I see failure to get promoted as quite the disaster you do, mate. If we do go up - quite an 'if' - as it stands the only way we could stay up, let alone vaguely compete, is to inject a big old amount of money into the club, and we know from where that money would come: Ashley. That would just leave us further up the creek. As I see it, failure to go up leaves us goosed, going up leaves us goosed. Happy days, indeed. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannochsidebear 2,405 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 My guess is that the loan deal goes along the lines of that he players are free as long as Ashley wins EGM, and RFC have to pay wages in full plus loan fees if Ashley loses control at EGM. That is what I would do if I hated our club as much as Ashley does. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 Roddy Forsyth saying the bulk of their wages will be paid by Newcastle, also expect another signing, not from Newcastle. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 173 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) I don't want to sound like a Govan Jeremiah, but can you seriously not 'see the issue' on this? I'm not being stroppy - I can't see how anyone can see this as anything other than harmful, in terms of long term team building, in terms of managerial strategy (useless though he is, this is unlikely to improve McDowell's mood,), in terms of relations with the SFA...it's possible that on the pitch we'll see an improvement but, as in the 'missing the point' How Far Are We Behind thread, survival issues must surely take precedence over a few wins over Alloa or Dumbarton? Im glad you unbeievers still revel in the biblical characters Andrew - it has opened the oportunity for me to raise something which will probably result in pelters coming my way. Totally aside from the boardroom power struggle - is there any others out there concerned about the lack of ethical sporting standards in this proposed deal ? Edited February 4, 2015 by D'Artagnan 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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