SteveC 150 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 without being there it's apparent that not many questions being answered. no idea where this is going as they give the impression they don't give a shit . they may well be commited to making rangers stronger, only they seem to want to do this with next to zero supporters.. They are fooling around, Somers is extracting the urine. They put the shareholders in the away end and are pouring scorn on them. This is so not my club. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 They are fooling around, Somers is extracting the urine. They put the shareholders in the away end and are pouring scorn on them. This is so not my club. it is your club don't let it be taken from you. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC 150 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 it is your club don't let it be taken from you. How, though? I'd need a time travelling machine. it has already happened - how do we get it back? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,378 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 How, though? I'd need a time travelling machine. it has already happened - how do we get it back? Look, it's never been our club in fact - it was always run by business people. RFC is a microcosm of our society; you can't control what you don't own and you don't own what you can't control. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 How, though? I'd need a time travelling machine. it has already happened - how do we get it back? doubt frankie would want me to answer that on here. all i would say is there is more than one way to skin a cat. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 There is no good option left for what is RIFC/TRFCStatus quo is soulless austere mediocrity of Sports Direct FC leading to no-where or a slow death. I'd rather see a New Rangers built on a secure base and build from there in an honest and ambitious way. We'd eventually pass what is RIFC on their way down. show me a way to achieve that. Admin guarantees nothing. How will you ensure SD does not get control after any admin process, and are you sure the merchandise contract does not have provisions for such an instance? good options are none and are not really the point good out comes should be the parameter of our options. With people like these they give not a s**t for what harm they cause they only care about their egos/standing and their pockets. Those are their soft spots. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 5,257 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) show me a way to achieve that. Admin guarantees nothing. How will you ensure SD does not get control after any admin process, and are you sure the merchandise contract does not have provisions for such an instance? good options are none and are not really the point good out comes should be the parameter of our options. With people like these they give not a s**t for what harm they cause they only care about their egos/standing and their pockets. Those are their soft spots. Let them get on with it, but at an empty stadium. Start a new Rangers. Edited December 22, 2014 by buster. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy steel 0 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) show me a way to achieve that. Admin guarantees nothing. How will you ensure SD does not get control after any admin process, and are you sure the merchandise contract does not have provisions for such an instance? good options are none and are not really the point good out comes should be the parameter of our options. With people like these they give not a s**t for what harm they cause they only care about their egos/standing and their pockets. Those are their soft spots. I suppose the only way to do it is not admins, liquidations, boycotts or any other plan, but the founding, from scratch, of a completely new club which is entirely, 100%, only and always about the 11 men in blue shirts and not about security over loans, mystery holding blocs, groups of requisitioners, merchandise deals or anything else you can think of. The team and only the team. It would need unbelievable strength of character, long term planning, collective action and the setting aside of ego. It could allow us to have a club rather than a business to follow, it could remind us why we love football and Rangers in the first place. It could attract the many hundreds (if not more) Rangers fans who won't touch the thing we see today with a barge pole, and who are in fact investing in other clubs even as we hirple on, getting further and further into the mire as we go. It could see a group of fans buy land, build a ground, assemble a team, work up from the very bottom, calling upon their reserves of strength and belief and achieve something that would be worth celebrating. But in all truth, it seems very unlikely. Edited December 22, 2014 by andy steel 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Let them get on with it, but at an empty stadium. Start a new Rangers. a new rangers with no badge,strip, stadium,name, merchandise rights or history is not Rangers no matter how much we would want it to be. Personally think Ashley would preempt and take the rights for badges and any assorted merchandise rights before admin was through. Same with stadium etc there would be no more than a 50/50 chance of attaining any of the assets or rights. The only way is to fight smarter. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I suppose the only way to do it is not admins, liquidations, boycotts or any other plan, but the founding, from scratch, of a completely new club which is entirely, 100%, only and always about the 11 men in blue shirts and not about security over loans, mystery holding blocs, groups of requisitioners, merchandise deals or anything else you can think of. The team and only the team. It would need unbelievable strength of character, long term planning, collective action and the setting aside of ego. It could allow us to have a club rather than a business to follow, it could remind us why we love football and Rangers in the first place. It could attract the many hundreds (if not more) Rangers fans who won't touch the thing we see today with a barge pole, and who are in fact investing in other clubs even as we hirple on, getting further and further into the mire as we go. It could see a group of fans buy land, build a ground, assemble a team, work up from the very bottom, calling upon their reserves of strength and belief and achieve something that would be worth celebrating. But in all truth, it seems very unlikely. would it not be far better to fight for the club first before giving in and starting a fresh? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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