The Real PapaBear 0 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 They said there'll be snow at christmasThey said there'll be peace on earth But instead it just kept on raining A veil of tears for the virgin's birth I remember one christmas morning A winters light and a distant choir And the peal of a bell and that christmas tree smell And their eyes full of tinsel and fire They sold me a dream of christmas They sold me a silent night And they told me a fairy story 'till I believed in the israelite And I believed in father christmas And I looked at the sky with excited eyes 'till I woke with a yawn in the first light of dawn And I saw him and through his disguise I wish you a hopeful christmas I wish you a brave new year All anguish pain and sadness Leave your heart and let your road be clear They said there'll be snow at christmas They said there'll be peace on earth Hallelujah noel be it heaven or hell The christmas you get you deserve originally written by Mr Lake as an anti-Vietnam protest, but has become an Ode to all who refuse to be duped by con-men, charlatans and ****s. FS, an old progger, who'da thunk? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinstein 294 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well there's hardly much value in trying to promote a brand from losers is there? he doesn't have to. Whether he sells his stuff to the supporters or not, Rangers have to pick up the bill......that's the onerous contract 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quattro 0 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The contracts should be challengeable under Void, voidable, illegal and unenforceable contracts in Scots law, that is of course once the details are available for perusal. RFFF could take the challenge up under their published goals of defending the club, if there is any challenge to be mounted under law. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well there's hardly much value in trying to promote a brand from losers is there? Yes there is. Billions in fact. Slazenger, Dunlop,Lonsdale,Donnay,Silverfox could go on and on. MA built his company foundations from loser brands which he has neither improved or shown any care towards their quality. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,679 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 If he were to become outright owner, which I am confident that he will, Based on what? Is he likely to give up Newcastle given the ever increasing finance available through the EPL TV deals? No. Did he show willingness to invest at the last share issue? No. Has he shown that he can control the club without buying shares? Yes I think that you're basing your opinion on hope rather than any evidence available. We need a level of sustainable investment that will continually see us at the top of the SPFL and in the Champions League group stages. That is where MA's head is at, in promoting his other business interests. To achieve this, we would need to at least equal scum fc's investment and in the grand scheme of things, is minuscule in the MA world and in how much he needs to sustain NUFC. We are a much bigger brand than them, so makes for good business sense. Yes, we do need investment but it's unlikely that Ashley will provide it in terms of investing in the club. He will continue to lend cash to us as he does with Newcastle. How much do they owe him? £190m? Is that what you really want for our club? We've been there in the pat with our unmanageable debt levels and I can't understand why anyone would want us to go back there. If you believe that Ashley will start investing in new shares then I fear that you are sadly mistaken. Are we really that much of a bigger brand than Newcastle with their EPL exposure? Does it really make that much business sense? Have you looked at the figures? Gross sales of possibly under £20m in strips isn't that significant. Win win all round and who knows he might even get to like us with a passion. Can I have some of what you're on? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 0 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Based on what? Is he likely to give up Newcastle given the ever increasing finance available through the EPL TV deals? No. Did he show willingness to invest at the last share issue? No. Has he shown that he can control the club without buying shares? Yes I think that you're basing your opinion on hope rather than any evidence available. Yes, we do need investment but it's unlikely that Ashley will provide it in terms of investing in the club. He will continue to lend cash to us as he does with Newcastle. How much do they owe him? £190m? Is that what you really want for our club? We've been there in the pat with our unmanageable debt levels and I can't understand why anyone would want us to go back there. If you believe that Ashley will start investing in new shares then I fear that you are sadly mistaken. Are we really that much of a bigger brand than Newcastle with their EPL exposure? Does it really make that much business sense? Have you looked at the figures? Gross sales of possibly under £20m in strips isn't that significant. Can I have some of what you're on? Agreed, mate. I think Williamite1 belongs to one of the 'Mike Ashley Loyal' Facebook groups.......... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Will be very surprised if we get to the start of next season debt free(large share issue wiping out debt accumulated this season) even if that happens we will still start next season with the club in a terrible position football wise needing large investment in scouting etc and a squad minus the out of contract players that we have no cash to replace with anything other than reject freebie players and a reducing wage structure(less than 26%) going against them with £19 m spent on first team.With only £1.389 ish m due from this years accumulated retail minus deductions(guessing that is why it is held). Only real difference will be we are still f**ked but now minus another revenue option facing a season of complete embarrassment hoping to beat all the rest and qualify for Europe. So where are we? back in debt needing European football to fund the squad with the non qualifiction in Europe sounding the death knell 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhunter 0 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Haven't seen anything posted that you do. Please impart from your crystal ball. I am sure it will be enlightening. they have well raped us and fled you are speaking in the past tense here. could you talk me through the ashley MO with regard to our current merchandising deal. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Have we been invaded by an entity known as The Mike Ashley Loyal? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC 150 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 "We need a level of sustainable investment " That's Ashley out then, he doesn't do investment 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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