Rangersitis 0 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Is there any precedent of a team getting such a heavy defeat and then getting through on such a technicality? Not for a player who should have been suspended. Peter Mate of Debrecen. Played in a 4-1 aggregate win in 2010 when he hadn't been named on the squad list. 15k fine. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little General 80 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Uefa have a history of making it up as they go along. whoever had the most political clout was always going to win the day. This ruling would never have happened with English,Spanish,German or Italian teams. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,383 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Not for a player who should have been suspended. Peter Mate of Debrecen. Played in a 4-1 aggregate win in 2010 when he hadn't been named on the squad list. 15k fine. And were Legia not entitled to think he was serving two games of his suspension by not registering him for the previous round? They're hardly trying to cheat are they? A minor admin error hardly merits throwing the club out the CL does it? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Found this on Bert Kassie's site: The Rules state Quote: A match *is* declared forfeit if a player who has been suspended following a disciplinary decision participates in the match. and Quote: A match *may* be declared forfeit if a player who is ineligible participates in the match, as long as the opposing team files a protest. There have been at least 2 other instances of forfeit games in the last few years due to suspended players playing: Budućnost of Montenegro were awarded a 3-0 win in 10/11 after Baku fielded a suspended player. Mura 05 of Slovenia were given a 3-0 win after Arsenal Kyiv fielded a suspended player. Open and shut case if that is accurate. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) And were Legia not entitled to think he was serving two games of his suspension by not registering him for the previous round?They're hardly trying to cheat are they? A minor admin error hardly merits throwing the club out the CL does it? I think this is a very important point in their favour, which one hopes they grasp at Appeal. By not registering him in the previous round effectively they elongated his supsension by two games, no Club with any sense would do that (unless perhaps it was Rangers for Mohsni if he's still with us heaven forbid when we get back to Europe). Edited August 8, 2014 by BrahimHemdani 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 And were Legia not entitled to think he was serving two games of his suspension by not registering him for the previous round?They're hardly trying to cheat are they? A minor admin error hardly merits throwing the club out the CL does it? Have they been accused of cheating? See the post above. That should quell your latest conspiracy theory. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Found this on Bert Kassie's site: Open and shut case if that is accurate. Yes it seems so, but what of the Derbrecen precedent? Also, whilst the offence is clear, the intention (and in this case the ludicrous outcome) MAY have a bearing. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Uefa have a history of making it up as they go along. whoever had the most political clout was always going to win the day.This ruling would never have happened with English,Spanish,German or Italian teams. Stuttgart were v Leeds a few years back. I think that one was to do with the '3 foreigners' rule. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Yes it seems so, but what of the Derbrecen precedent? Also, whilst the offence is clear, the intention (and in this case the ludicrous outcome) MAY have a bearing. Debrecen was for a player who wasn't eligible because he wasn't listed to play, not because of suspension. See above for how they differentiate between the two. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I don't usually side with the conspiracy theorists but I can see at least three other questions that need answered here: How did Celtic come to know that the player had not been regsitered and thus not served part of his served his ban v St Patricks; I mean it's not even something you would think that St Patricks would have been looking for? If UEFA knew that the suspended palyer had not been regsitered v St Patricks; why would they not tell Legia; I mean you could argue that it's not up to them but equally they shouldn't knowingly be party to a situation where a player's suspension is elongated due to an administrative error. If UEFA didn't know about it until Celtic drew it to their attention; why didn't they know about it? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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