the gunslinger 3,366 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 i am also very very unhappy with the board attacking ally in order to deflect from the real issues at the club. if they want to attack him do it openly and legally. sack him and take the consequences don't set irvine on him and the players. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Dynamo 128 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 He shouldn't be abused in anyway whatsoever and I agree some people go too far. But I would say some fans think he can do no wrong and back it up with stuff like he's Mr Rangers or a good Rangers man etc. I personally just don't think he's up to the job of managing Rangers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 i doubt it myself. though it's not a cast iron fact yet. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 But I would say some fans think he can do no wrong and back it up with stuff like he's Mr Rangers or a good Rangers man etc. I've yet to meet any fans who thinks McCoist can do no wrong, but, I'll take your word for it that they exist somewhere. Be that the case, the vast majority of other fans recognise that he can and does do wrong and will continue to do wrong for some time to come - albeit in hopefully decreaseing amounts. But these other fans also recognise that he is still learning his trade as a manager and so are willing to give him every last opportunity to prove himself. We are willing to give him the time to get us to the top division and see how he does there under 'normal' circumstance and if he does well we will have been vindicated in our patience. If he fails, then so be it - but then at least we can look ourselves in the eye and know that we gave him every chance and stood by him for as long as possible. The reason for giving him this time and patience is that he *is* Mr Rangers, he *is* one of us and he has earned the right to expect at least that degree of loyalty from us. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmu 0 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ok fair enough real papa you are one of the fans who excuse his shortcomings just because he is mr rangers. I take it in two to three years time you will be very supportive of the board as they try and fund a complete squad rebuild for a new manager as we find ourselves two to three years behind the game plan to wrest top spot back from celtic, if Ally does in fact prove to be inadequate for the task. However should he prove to be the real deal deal then I'll be eating my hat.. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Dynamo 128 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I've yet to meet any fans who thinks McCoist can do no wrong, but, I'll take your word for it that they exist somewhere. Be that the case, the vast majority of other fans recognise that he can and does do wrong and will continue to do wrong for some time to come - albeit in hopefully decreaseing amounts. But these other fans also recognise that he is still learning his trade as a manager and so are willing to give him every last opportunity to prove himself. We are willing to give him the time to get us to the top division and see how he does there under 'normal' circumstance and if he does well we will have been vindicated in our patience. If he fails, then so be it - but then at least we can look ourselves in the eye and know that we gave him every chance and stood by him for as long as possible. The reason for giving him this time and patience is that he *is* Mr Rangers, he *is* one of us and he has earned the right to expect at least that degree of loyalty from us. We need to get away from all the Rangers man stuff I judge Ally McCoist on how his teams perform, not on the fact he is a Rangers supporter and ex player. We need professional businessmen with a proven track record running the business side and a professional manager, coaches and players on the football side. I don't think Ally McCoist is the man for the football side 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I judge Ally McCoist on how his teams perform, not on the fact he is a Rangers supporter and ex player. If you are judging McCoist the manager by those criteria, then that's fine - we should all be doing that. However, those people who judge McCoist the man by the performances of the team (and I'm not saying you are one, btw) forgetting the pivotal role that McCoist played in the summer of 2012 are not the sort of people I'd want with me in the trenches - or in the Govan stand. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmu 0 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Real papa - is there any circumstances you would disengage allys summer of 12 exploits with his managerial performance? Or is it a case of job for life? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Real papa - is there any circumstances you would disengage allys summer of 12 exploits with his managerial performance? Or is it a case of job for life? read post 34 again 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmu 0 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Sorry real if you are going to judge his managerial performance you have to forget the other "circumstances" otherwise you get a clouded decision. We can 't afford to get this wrong. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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