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And so yet another thread I have started on a Rangers' forum, about the governance of Rangers, descends into, disguised at times behind the thinnest of veils, an anti- Mark Dingwall thread: another rehash of personal grievances and vendettas beckons, nothing to do with the governance of the club or related to the team we are all supposed to support.

 

I note also that I had a post about RM deleted last month that was less critical of that forum than a host of posts re FF have been both before and after my post, yet they were left to stand.

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And so yet another thread I have started on a Rangers' forum, about the governance of Rangers, descends into, disguised at times behind the thinnest of veils, an anti- Mark Dingwall thread: another rehash of personal grievances and vendettas beckons, nothing to do with the governance of the club or related to the team we are all supposed to support.

 

I note also that I had a post about RM deleted last month that was less critical of that forum than a host of posts re FF have been both before and after my post, yet they were left to stand.

 

In fairness Steve, Mark Dingwall was mentioned in the Jack Irvine email Ian posted on page 4 which was leaked from Charlotte Fakes (or whatever it's now called), so it was an inevitable tangent for the thread to run off into discussions about why Irvine was targeting MD and so forth.

 

The Gersnet team try to moderate the forum as fairly as possible, but everyone is also busy with their own lives and especially over the festive season, it's easy for things to get completely missed or read, but forgotten about.

 

In general though, regular visitors to the forum here should all know that we have some unwritten rules regarding other Gers forums, sites and indeed fellow Bears. All we ask is that discussion is kept civil, polite and courteous and that other Gers forums are not slagged off here.

 

These aren't easy things to police, but normally we don't need to because Gersnet regulars don't give us any cause to do so due to their general respect for these simple and sensible concepts.

 

Finally, please feel free to get in touch with Frankie, Craig, myself or any of the moderators if you have any specific complaints or requests and we'll always try to help if we can. There's also a support forum where everyone is welcome to start threads discussing problems or general grievances about the forum.

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Thank you, Zappa, i'd rather write openly if I may because this is a forum that supports that.

 

I am grateful (see previous comments) for the relatively sane and fair way things are here.)

I am no "flag waver" for FF, I've been banned twice and resigned once in a mere four years after all :) However the treatment it gets on other forums (not here) is so vile as to be akin to a trip to a tarrier hole in the Gallowgate. I will never understand the passion with which we attack our own - especially as we laugh at "tim on tim" fall-outs.

I guess what I wrote above was mainly propelled by a fear this forum was going the same way. inching that way, perhaps, but still.... One comment against to me (admittedly only my opinion) a poisonous forum with free rein to bring down Rangers FC and, a an albeit mightily flawed forum for mostly Rangers; fans - treated very differently, and not just on this thread.

The last month has seen a discernible of personal agendas being driven all because of an RST "storm". Rangers are what matters and we are at a crisis point (again!) in our history,

 

I spent/have spent years in fandom in other spheres (science fiction and music); running magazines/clubs/fan sites on a worldwide basis - in every case I have walked away when the commercial/audience side was at its peak because everyone I was involved with had become obsessed with the magazine or site rather than the authors or musicians we had started out supporting. Fandom seems to have an inbuilt curse.

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And so yet another thread I have started on a Rangers' forum, about the governance of Rangers, descends into, disguised at times behind the thinnest of veils, an anti- Mark Dingwall thread: another rehash of personal grievances and vendettas beckons, nothing to do with the governance of the club or related to the team we are all supposed to support.

 

I'd say it's more a general criticism of the RST's lack of communication than a Mark Dingwall bashing.

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I'd say it's more a general criticism of the RST's lack of communication than a Mark Dingwall bashing.

 

Perhaps, perhaps one could deduce something from folk who only seem to post re RST and its hierarchy rather than RFC though, no? This is GERSNET forum not antiRST forum. Or was until about a month ago....(still is, mainly, of course!)

Rangers matter - individual fans, fan groups, fanzines, bloggers and (sorry admin!) fan web forums do not. All of the things mentioned are supposed to revolve around the football club, not around each other.

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Perhaps, perhaps one could deduce something from folk who only seem to post re RST and its hierarchy rather than RFC though, no? This is GERSNET forum not antiRST forum. Or was until about a month ago....(still is, mainly, of course!)

Rangers matter - individual fans, fan groups, fanzines, bloggers and (sorry admin!) fan web forums do not. All of the things mentioned are supposed to revolve around the football club, not around each other.

 

I'd agree that some of the threads involving the RST were a bit of a pain before Christmas but I don't think that this thread falls into that category. OK the thread has gone a bit OT but many threads do.

 

The RST are part of the Rangers landscape. They appear to have been the main player in opening up dialogue with the clubb ove the past 18 months or so and have raised a decent sum of cash for the share issue. I don't see an issue in valid questions being raised for the board members (or ex) who are on this site to answer if they so wish.

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Thank you, Zappa, i'd rather write openly if I may because this is a forum that supports that.

 

I am grateful (see previous comments) for the relatively sane and fair way things are here.)

I am no "flag waver" for FF, I've been banned twice and resigned once in a mere four years after all :) However the treatment it gets on other forums (not here) is so vile as to be akin to a trip to a tarrier hole in the Gallowgate. I will never understand the passion with which we attack our own - especially as we laugh at "tim on tim" fall-outs.

I guess what I wrote above was mainly propelled by a fear this forum was going the same way. inching that way, perhaps, but still.... One comment against to me (admittedly only my opinion) a poisonous forum with free rein to bring down Rangers FC and, a an albeit mightily flawed forum for mostly Rangers; fans - treated very differently, and not just on this thread.

The last month has seen a discernible of personal agendas being driven all because of an RST "storm". Rangers are what matters and we are at a crisis point (again!) in our history,

 

I spent/have spent years in fandom in other spheres (science fiction and music); running magazines/clubs/fan sites on a worldwide basis - in every case I have walked away when the commercial/audience side was at its peak because everyone I was involved with had become obsessed with the magazine or site rather than the authors or musicians we had started out supporting. Fandom seems to have an inbuilt curse.

 

You make some fair points Steve and yes, please feel free to write openly, but please also feel free to bring complaints about the forum to our attention privately.

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I was merely trying to highlight the hypocrisy in some of the posts.

If you want to defend MD then feel free.

But I will refuse to trust the RST again unless they sort this mess out.

Their silence is disgusting and treats the fans that have invested money with utter contempt.

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