Express on player cuts

[craig 5,199]

Both of them left under such different circumstances to an other player at any other club. A better example may have been Danny Wilson though not every kid thinks like he does or gets advice like he does either.

 

Regardless, top class U18 talent is being plucked by far bigger clubs than ourselves.

 

There is a U13 at Rangers just now who is already being looked at by, amongst others, Spurs, Everton and Man U. Which kid wouldnt have his head turned by that rather than the debacle we have at Ibrox ?

 

We say these things as if they are easy to achieve. Och, just go out and grab these 18 yr old kids, they will be grand in the 1st team. Nobody, repeat nobody, has a perfect success rate with kids. Yet we throw out these one-liners as if all of us could achieve it. We couldnt. So we shouldnt be so flippant about it.

[Super Cooper 0]

Regardless, top class U18 talent is being plucked by far bigger clubs than ourselves.

 

There is a U13 at Rangers just now who is already being looked at by, amongst others, Spurs, Everton and Man U. Which kid wouldnt have his head turned by that rather than the debacle we have at Ibrox ?

 

One with good advice, one with proper grounding, one with a clever head on his shoulders. Kids are always looked at by numerous clubs. What's key in your post if "debacle we have at Ibrox".

 

We have managed just fine so far to keep a hold of very good youth players, our problem is not keeping them at the club at 13/14, it's knowing what to do with them when they are 17/18/19. Walter didn't know and Ally doesn't know. Fleck, Urquhart and now Telfer proof.

[craig 5,199]

Fleck wasnt, or isnt, as good as many think he is. All hype. And therein lies the problem, we as fans buy into the hype.

 

Same with McKay... hyped up to no end. Gets a wee chance but isnt as good as being made out.

 

It happens, a lot. And not just at our club.

[Crimson Dynamo 128]

Fleck wasnt, or isnt, as good as many think he is. All hype. And therein lies the problem, we as fans buy into the hype.

 

Same with McKay... hyped up to no end. Gets a wee chance but isnt as good as being made out.

 

It happens, a lot. And not just at our club.

 

 

They don't get a proper chance though for us to find out. If they don't excel straightaway then they're not good enough

[Super Cooper 0]

Fleck wasnt, or isnt, as good as many think he is. All hype. And therein lies the problem, we as fans buy into the hype.

 

Same with McKay... hyped up to no end. Gets a wee chance but isnt as good as being made out.

 

It happens, a lot. And not just at our club.

 

That is all any kid has at 13/14/15. Hype, potential.

 

Walter played John at left back at one point, then left midfield expecting him to defend. He didn't know how to fit him into the team. Rangers fans never seen anything of what Fleck was capable of because the 2 managers he played under didn't have a clue how to handle him or how to play him.

 

Fleck was an exceptional talent. Better than all his team mates at his age group and not out of his depth training with the first team when he was only 16. Technically he was outstanding, what let him down was a disgusting attitude.

 

Who has been hyping up McKay? He is nowhere near as good as what Fleck was.

[the gunslinger 3,366]

by all accounts fleck is playing superbly at coventry.

[craig 5,199]

That is all any kid has at 13/14/15. Hype, potential.

 

Walter played John at left back at one point, then left midfield expecting him to defend. He didn't know how to fit him into the team. Rangers fans never seen anything of what Fleck was capable of because the 2 managers he played under didn't have a clue how to handle him or how to play him.

 

Fleck was an exceptional talent. Better than all his team mates at his age group and not out of his depth training with the first team when he was only 16. Technically he was outstanding, what let him down was a disgusting attitude.

 

Who has been hyping up McKay? He is nowhere near as good as what Fleck was.

 

If it was down to just Smith & McCoist that ruined Fleck.... what has he done since he left ? Surely by leaving and not having the shackles of two poor developmental managers he has flourished into the international superstar that one with "exceptional talent" would undoubtedly become. He is languishing in the lower reaches in England is he not ? Not quite the exceptional talent one could readily argue.

 

Plenty are saying McKay should be playing, give him game time, he is young but should be playing etc etc etc. Reality is that he isnt as good as some hype him up to be.

 

I think some of our fans hype young players up merely as it gives them a stick with which to beat the manager "look, Ally wont play the youngsters again".

 

Of all the youngsters that have featured for us in the last couple of years only MacLeod has truly shone. Aird has shown that he deserves his chance whilst McKay, Crawford and the others have flattered to deceive.

 

We say that we want to see the kids in the team but the reality is that if they contribute to us not winning or not being promoted then the manager's head will be on the chopping block. And they didnt exactly set the world alight last year when called upon.

[craig 5,199]

by all accounts fleck is playing superbly at coventry.

 

Found his level perhaps.

[craig 5,199]

They don't get a proper chance though for us to find out. If they don't excel straightaway then they're not good enough

 

so the management team are as impatient as the fans it would seem.

[Super Cooper 0]

If it was down to just Smith & McCoist that ruined Fleck.... what has he done since he left ? Surely by leaving and not having the shackles of two poor developmental managers he has flourished into the international superstar that one with "exceptional talent" would undoubtedly become. He is languishing in the lower reaches in England is he not ? Not quite the exceptional talent one could readily argue.

 

Plenty are saying McKay should be playing, give him game time, he is young but should be playing etc etc etc. Reality is that he isnt as good as some hype him up to be.

 

I think some of our fans hype young players up merely as it gives them a stick with which to beat the manager "look, Ally wont play the youngsters again".

 

Of all the youngsters that have featured for us in the last couple of years only MacLeod has truly shone. Aird has shown that he deserves his chance whilst McKay, Crawford and the others have flattered to deceive.

 

We say that we want to see the kids in the team but the reality is that if they contribute to us not winning or not being promoted then the manager's head will be on the chopping block. And they didnt exactly set the world alight last year when called upon.

 

He is now playing under a manager who has belief in him and has a track record of working with younger players. The hyperbole about exceptional international superstar nonsense is not necessary craig. Just because he is at club in the lower does not mean he is poor. Every player starts somewhere, every player has their own route to where they end up, every player is different. Coventry are a big club with big expectations and last year had an average gate higher than any club in Scotland outside the top 2.

 

I think people are wanting McKay to play because what we currently have in the team is two central midfielders playing out of position and it's not enjoyable, it's hard to watch. They see a wide man not getting a game who has shown some signs that he can excite and do damage and want him to play instead. Understandable i would say. I do agree with you however, McKay is not as good as some think but he does have something.

 

I think the youth stick to beat Ally with is nonsense, the manager makes enough other mistakes to be criticised justifiably.

 

What on earth did you want any kid to do last year? We were an absolute disgrace last year from top to bottom. The fact a few managed to put their head up and show us anything was great. Mckay has shown glimpses that he may have "something". Aird has also shown potential. MacLeod has shown "something" arguably more than the other two. We seen enough from a lad Andy Murdoch in a matter of minutes against Newcaste which left people desperate to see more. There are a batch of kids right now in the reserve team which are exciting me no end. A group of around 4 or 5 who are ready now to step up but will not get their chance whilst we have Cribaris, Smiths and Shiels on the bench earning thousands. We are at a perfect level right now to try out more kids than normal but no, Ally wants to buy more players, no doubt with experience and on big bucks.

 

Then we need a manager who can work with our youth prospects because that is our future. We can no longer afford buying managers. Last year was a disgrace for everyone, an embarrassment for the whole club, to single out the kids is grossly unfair.