chilledbear 16 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 Lee Lee, Super Lee....I really wish the fans would cut that song out. It's Rule Britannia that gets me, and don't get me started on God Save The Queen. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueflag 386 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 and don't get me started on God Save The Queen. Your national anthem.. get over it. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Your national anthem.. get over it. That just opens up a whole new debate.....all depends on whether you see yourself as Scottish first & British second etc - but that's for another day... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueflag 386 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 That just opens up a whole new debate.....all depends on whether you see yourself as Scottish first & British second etc - but that's for another day... It may do in there heads, but I've yet to see anyone show me there scottish passport :fish: Sorry yip little off topic. For once im in agreement with STB on this focus lot. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 Your national anthem.. get over it. I've been standing for it for over 60 years but it doesn't mean I like the song. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,744 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) What? Instead of blaming some fake all seeing big brother' date=' can we not just stop singing these idiotic songs?[/quote'] IMHO, and we have this (no disrespect) Ultra rubbish in Germany for years, this has also to do with the "in spite of" attitude of the young generation of so-called Ultras. Over the last few years this has crept into our ranks too and for all the sing-songs and atmosphere-creation, there is also this "we are different" attitude which shows up especially when it comes to real or perceived "bans". It can all be "tackled" with reason and sense, IF the club, the police, the steward chiefs, and the fans (including the "Ultras") would simply get together and speak to one another, rather than stick to their guns no matter what. Edited October 23, 2013 by der Berliner 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Ally 0 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Those who want to engage with the policy and decision makers as it stands now are off their heads. There is little interest in stamping out offensive behaviour across the board. That's why so little is done to Celtic, Aberdeen, every other club singing about Huns etc. As Pete states no one is truly offended. People either want to harm Rangers or bolster their own position using the sectarianism industry. There is no appetite for actually changing attitudes and behaviours in the game. All this talk of our fans singing songs that are deemed unpalatable in a modern Scotland. That's got fuck all to do with it and is disingenuous. Your average man in the street doesn't care. Doesn't know what the songs are about. Edited October 23, 2013 by Super_Ally Feck load of Typos 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 7,030 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 As bob Dylan sang in my day , the time they are a changing , lets bring in a whole new song sheet and stick it right up them they don't like it up them . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amms 0 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Those who want to engage with the policy and decision makers as it stands no are off their heads. There is little interest in stamping out offensive behaviour across the board. That's why so little is done to Celtic, Aberdeen, every other club singing about Huns etc. As Pete states no oe is truly offended. People either want to harm Rangers or booster their own position using the sectarianism industry. There is no appetite for actually changing attitudes and behaviours in the game. All this talk of our fans singing songs tat are deemed unpalatable in a modern Scotland. That's got fuck all to do with it and is disingenuous. Your average man in the street doesn't care. Doesn't know what the songs are about. The average man looks at songs about 'joining the YCV' and with lines about 'pistols and guns' and understands these to be about murder gangs who now murder people because they are involved in organised crime. The last set of figures I saw published regarding religiously aggravated crimes in Scotland suggested that 'anti-Protestant' 'crimes' were over represented if measured against the population as a whole. Indeed Jewish people were the most likely group to suffer from religiously aggravated crime in Scotland. So this suggestion that somehow Rangers supporters are singled out doesn't seem to be borne out in the figures. To suggest there is an element of politics at play here is to state the obvious, that's what politicians do. But this head-in-the-sand why-always-us cry that goes up whenever we discuss this topic is wearisome. As far as I know no one else sings about the UVF or No Pope of Rome, so, you know, figure it out. On that point earlier this year Partick Thistle, on the advice of the police, asked their fans to stop singing a song which contained the lines 'fuck the pope and fuck the queen'. So, once again, not always us. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,744 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 As long as the Yahoos will sing their IRA-oke et al en masse, question will and have to be asked. I'm also sick and tired about the whole "look at them" argumentation, yet, the pendulum swings boths ways and as long as there is no level field (and we have that on various levels), the voices of discontent should not subside. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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