Frankie 8,675 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 From poster McCoist_355 on FF: http://forum.followfollow.com/showthread.php?t=932306 For posterity... Lord Nimmo Smith/Glennie/SPL: http://tiny.cc/ojiipw - NimmoSmith verdict's proving Rangers FC continues (JPG) http://tiny.cc/832kqw - Lord Nimmo Smith's report (PDF) http://tiny.cc/xn6kqw - SPL CEO Neil Doncaster: "It is an existing club, even though it's a new company" 1 minute in. http://tiny.cc/0ko6xw - Lord Glennie - distinguishing between company and club UEFA: http://tiny.cc/u8akpw - UEFA Rangers "Scottish Cup" squad (Elgin game) updated 8th Dec 2012 (LINK) http://tiny.cc/r12kqw - UEFA's updated Scottish Cup squad (JPG) SFL/SPFL: http://tiny.cc/8h832w - SPFL Rangers home page - "Founded 1872" - Full trophy list (LINK) http://tiny.cc/pyyzyw - Derek Longmuir, SFL CEO, congratulating Gers on 140 years. SFA: http://tiny.cc/xn832w - SFA statement - Newco are "the new owners of the Rangers Football Club" http://tiny.cc/b1kuyw - SFA Annual Review - RFC "entering liquidation and subsequently accommodated into SFL3" http://tiny.cc/qdfjqw - SFA's Scottish Cup archive: Rangers FC record continuous into 2013. (JPG) http://tiny.cc/gt3kqw - SFA Q&A: clarifying status of "Rangers FC" re. Div 3, 4 yrs of accounts, Scottish Cup entry (LINK) http://tiny.cc/lu3kqw - SFA statement "full membership has been transferred". (LINK) HMRC: http://tiny.cc/cryzyw - "the liquidation route does not prejudice the proposed sale of the club. This sale [of Rangers FC] can take place either through a CVA or a liquidation." (LINK) European Clubs Association: http://tiny.cc/yw5kqw - "The organisation considers the club’s history to be continuous regardless of the change of company" (LINK) Advertising Standards Authority: http://tiny.cc/gs832w - Rangers' most successful club claim is rubber-stamped by the ASA BBC - Independent report by Editorial Standards Committee: http://tiny.cc/lezzyw - "where.. the BBC had made the distinction between an “old” and “new” Rangers.. club as opposed to the “old” and “new” company, ..due accuracy had not been achieved." Proof of post-liquidation survival precedents: http://tiny.cc/5jnqqw - Leeds WERE liquidated/No CVA - KPMG source http://tiny.cc/7tpqqw - Arbitration case proving Leeds no CVA http://www.theifo.co.uk/adjudication...llettfinal.pdf - Luton No CVA (IFO)/Bournemouth/Rotherham/Leeds too http://judgmental.org.uk/judgments/E...A_Civ_180.html Crystal Palace were also liquidated. http://tiny.cc/9xp6xw (PDF) and http://tiny.cc/8cq6xw (JPG) - Portsmouth were also "liquidated" in 2010 And finally....Dermot Desmond: http://tiny.cc/vqo6xw - "A fantastic club with great history" 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,675 Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 Also: Neil Patey: Partner at E&Y (finance guy used extensively by the media during the admin process) “My view is that it is like many other business acquisitions where the assets, people, trade and trading names are "acquired" by another entity. It is a new legal entity, but essentially the old business continues. So it is right to say that it is a newco in legal terms, but the "club" is a continuation of the old one. Then it is up to football authorities if they confer membership and titles that "belonged" to oldco, which they obviously appear to have done.” 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltersgotstyle 307 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 All great points. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibmark 19 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 "But Jum Spence an' Speersey says........" Go back to your sisters bed, Timmy!!! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Rebo's Big Blue Nose 0 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I decided to take a new take on the club/company "debate" with a few Celtic supporting mates who wouldn't let give up on the new club guff. I proposed a hypothetical scenario where Celtic had suffered the same mismanagement as Rangers and and as fans the had to defend the daily accusations of "new club" from rival fans, media et all. I expanded further by stating I believed they would consider Celtic "the club" as an untouchable entity that transcends company ownership etc. They, as fans, wouldnt stop supporting "Celtic". If a team in green and white hoops ran out at Parkhead they would support them regardless of the recent history of the company. Surely? One reply went along the lines of "ah but that's different as Celtic are more than just a club..." Case closed your honour 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,675 Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 Further evidence: http://www.scribd.com/doc/148533285/Rangers-New-Company-The-Same-Club#fullscreen 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 2,060 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 For the love of all that is good and pure, DO NOT READ TODAY'S SPIERSEY ARTICLE IN THE HERALD. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 For the love of all that is good and pure, DO NOT READ TODAY'S SPIERSEY ARTICLE IN THE HERALD. I've completely stopped reading articles from Britney. He has absolutely nothing to say which is even in the slightest bit interesting or worthwhile. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 2,060 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I've completely stopped reading articles from Britney. He has absolutely nothing to say which is even in the slightest bit interesting or worthwhile. Agreed. His irrelevance was confirmed a long time ago. Normally I do not read any of his stuff other than what gets copied and pasted onto forums. However, for some unknown reason, my subconcious decided I would click on the newsnow link. I can only assume that my subconcious felt it was time to get angry about something after spending most of the morning in a boring meeting. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,807 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I've completely stopped reading articles from Britney. He has absolutely nothing to say which is even in the slightest bit interesting or worthwhile. Speirs has no credibility left whatsoever ever since Chris Graham wiped the floor with him on Scotland Tonight on the night of the BTC result last year. Being caught out telling blatant lies on live television you'd think organisations in this country wouldn't employ him again. Yet again this is Scotland unfortunately 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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