Calgacus 8 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 The big problem with Whittaker is that he is capable of horrendous lapses, such as his sending of against Malmo (was it?), that can be very costly for his team 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 name me one other lapse that big? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I have to confess, as a Scotland fan, I would be uncomfortable with Wallace starting against Belgium. Yes, he's been in good, consistent form, but he's just not being tested enough at our current level. Playing against the Belgians would have been a massive step up. That's not to say I'm any less concerned at Griffiths (3rd tier in England) and Hutton (outcast) starting. And I agree Whittaker isn't a right back. I'd have him as far as possible up the pitch. You would have Whittaker in midfield or attack? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 i like wallace but whittaker is certainly the better of the two. comfortably the better. oh how i would love to have one either side of our defence. People blow Wallace way, way out of proportion. You know there was a thread this week on whether he could become the greatest ever Ranger on RM? Absolutely mind boggling. He openly stated the only reason he stayed was because of his family, yet people portray him as a hero? He's a decent upper level SPL full back and no more. Anyone with less than 10 Scottish caps at the age of 26 is rarely a world beater. I would say Wallace is more of a steady Eddy whereas Whittaker is much more talented but blighted by severe inconsistency. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Davison 0 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Whittaker has always struggled defensively, even at right back and at left back, he struggles even more. The Macedonia game is unimportant and if Strachan has any genuine interest in assessing Wallace at international level, Tuesday provides him with a good opportunity. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Ironically Whittaker looked pretty good at centre back particularly against Celtic in the league cup final. He's the type of player that would probably have been far, far better if he was born in the likes of Spain and was able to benefit from their training methods and style. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,743 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 name me one other lapse that big? In the first game it was him dilly-dallying on the ball, eventually gave it away for the Swedes's goal. Afterwards he proclaimed that we can still get a result in Sweden and managed to get himself send-off within 30 mins.. That was not the sole reason why went out that day, but a contributing factor. What Whittaker lacked for us was consistency. But that's just MHO. On a sidenote, van Buyten, Verthongen, Chadli, Fellaini and de Bruyne et al are top players and Belgium might well be a force to be reckoned with. Most current-day Scottish full-backs would have problems coping with them. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amms 0 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 That's a problem of the manager though, not where and against whom Wallace plays. Macleod was warming the bench for the u21s for 78 minutes, ending up with a 4-0 defeat. IMHO, neither Wallace or Macleod have to prove anything to warrant a place in their respective national teams. If the manager is too thick to see that, it is his fault. I'm just happy that both chaps come back unscathed. I disagree entirely. MacLeod is only 19, he's a great prospect but he's still got a lot to prove, no way should he be a first choice for the under 21s yet. Rhys McCabe is still eligible for the under 21s, he's far ahead of MacLeod developmentally for example. That doesn't mean Macleod won't become a better player in time. Likewise Wallace, he's a good player but he shoud be playing at a higher level than he is. I'm pleased he plays for us but he shouldn't be making the Scotland side. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 In the first game it was him dilly-dallying on the ball, eventually gave it away for the Swedes's goal. Afterwards he proclaimed that we can still get a result in Sweden and managed to get himself send-off within 30 mins.. That was not the sole reason why went out that day, but a contributing factor. What Whittaker lacked for us was consistency. But that's just MHO. On a sidenote, van Buyten, Verthongen, Chadli, Fellaini and de Bruyne et al are top players and Belgium might well be a force to be reckoned with. Most current-day Scottish full-backs would have problems coping with them. if we are going to talk about every mistake then we might as well say pele was shite. [video=youtube_share;e4fzeK3SQa4] 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN63 0 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Whittaker's best games for Rangers were when he played in a midfield role, sure that was the role he was playing when he scored that cracker against Sporting Lisbon. Wallace is an out an out, specialist, attacking left back and is better in that position than Whittaker ever was. I also think Wallace is stronger than Whittaker. One of Whittaker's major benefits to Rangers was his utility capability, which he personally may or may not have liked, sure most players prefer a specific position. Both players can cross a ball, though Wallace seems to get to the line more and whips in some excellent left sided balls. I always thought Whittaker had potential for great consistency, but honestly and maybe it could be lack of positional consistency, never saw it. Prefer Wallace as a player. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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