Gribz 743 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Its unbelievable the way the current clowns have destroyed everything. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 To be honest it was UEFA taking away the European qualification that killed it not anything to do with local football association's. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,079 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 To be honest it was UEFA taking away the European qualification that killed it not anything to do with local football association's. Thought it was the ruling clowns who did that not UEFA, the English League Cup winners can still qualify for the Europa League. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Thought it was the ruling clowns who did that not UEFA, the English League Cup winners can still qualify for the Europa League. I thought that was a UEFA decision but I stand to be corrected. If so it was the clowns that killed it. You then have to argue that with so few UEFA places is winning a cup better than 3rd in the league? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,079 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I thought that was a UEFA decision but I stand to be corrected. If so it was the clowns that killed it. You then have to argue that with so few UEFA places is winning a cup better than 3rd in the league? Don't see much difference between the League Cup winners or the Scottish Cup winners getting a European spot I celebrate winning either I've never celebrated coming third even with the ensuing European spot to be honest. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Don't see much difference between the League Cup winners or the Scottish Cup winners getting a European spot I celebrate winning either I've never celebrated coming third even with the ensuing European spot to be honest. I have to agree with you winning a cup is better as 3rd in the league although some may say a cup is a few games and the league is over the whole season. The Dutch system is even crazier as the team who are 9th in the league can win the play-offs and get a place in Europe at the cost of the team who is 3rd in the league. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,079 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I have to agree with you winning a cup is better as 3rd in the league although some may say a cup is a few games and the league is over the whole season. The Dutch system is even crazier as the team who are 9th in the league can win the play-offs and get a place in Europe at the cost of the team who is 3rd in the league. I suppose under normal circumstances it's usually 1st, 2nd or 3rd who'd win the cups anyway (cue some stato correcting me!....). 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Thought it was the ruling clowns who did that not UEFA, the English League Cup winners can still qualify for the Europa League. I suppose under normal circumstances it's usually 1st, 2nd or 3rd who'd win the cups anyway (cue some stato correcting me!....). I think you're right. Taken over a longer period of time, it's easy to see that Rangers and Celtic have been winning a hell of a lot of the cups and I think that's why the SFA decided to change it because more often than not the cup winners were already going to get a Euro spot from the league positions anyway, in which case a high league position is more worthy of a Euro spot than being the runner-up in a cup. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca72 440 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 In spite of all that Ally still wants to win a cup ... Ally McCoist wants a return to trophy time RANGERS manager Ally McCoist reckons that his summer signings have given him the second-strongest squad in the country – and now he’s hoping to start winning cups as well as promotions. Published: Sun, July 28, 2013 Ally McCoist says last season's squad shouldn't have been expected to win trophies McCoist hasn’t reached a semi-final of any competition since he replaced Walter Smith two years ago and that’s something he’s determined to put right. His side start the new campaign against Albion Rovers in the Ramsdens Cup at Livingston today and he believes that new boys Jon Daly, Cammy Bell, Nicky Law and Nicky Clark can help them claim silverware. “The ones we have signed on free transfers have definitely put us in a stronger position but we have miles to go,” said McCoist. “I’d hope we are now in the position of the rest of the clubs in the top flight - apart from Celtic. A cup run would be nice: that’s the best way of putting it. “St Mirren won a cup last year, which was fantastic. Celtic will start as favourites for every competition and I don’t have a problem with that, but I’d like to think we would be in the mix with the other clubs in the top league. “We have the same hopes in those cups as all the top-flight clubs, outwith Celtic.” McCoist claims that last season’s squad shouldn’t have been expected to win trophies but he believes they’re in a position to do that now. “The cup defeats were a disappointment last year but I got over them quite quickly,” he said. “We’d hope for better this year and we’ll look for improvement. “This year will be different. The disappointment would be far greater because we have a better squad now. “The boys we have signed have that winning mentality - Cammy won the League Cup with Kilmarnock and Jon won the Scottish Cup with Dundee United. “I’d like to think they believe we have the kind of squad capable of going on a run.” McCoist revealed that skipper Lee McCulloch who scored 23 goals last season, will probably start at centre-half against Rovers. “There’s every chance - it’s a position that we’re not strong in,” he said. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Cooper 0 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Every cup has always meant something to me. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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