Frankie 8,210 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I do like John's stuff but I see 'Green out' as a growing bandwagon and exactly the aim of Whyte and the media, All good has been cancelled out and issues that went on before they even officially bought the club seem to be causing a lot of panic even thought we're just under a year down the line. There's no doubt some fans need to maintain their discipline and view the last year as a whole rather than one week in isolation. However, the point I'm making is that it's wrong to dismiss all constructive criticism of any given subject (be it Green, the manager or whatever) just because it may be seen as reactive and somewhat negative. What we have missed as a support more than anything over the last decade is proactive and credible criticism. In this case, I think John is attempting to offer up another side to the debate and while you and I may disagree with his conclusion, I certainly can't disagree with the general point he's making. The fact of the matter is Green's performance generally has been reasonably good over the last year but his actions of the last week and his less than professional behaviour with Whyte last spring means there are valid doubts about his suitability. Perhaps not enough to see him forced out but certainly worrying enough to debate sensibly. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 STB, I have remained absolutely and honestly open minded about Green until the last few days and been skeptical of GS, FS and others who I thought had a bit of an agenda against anyone that wasn't of their choosing. I think you need to get your head out of the sand. It mystifies me that you will harangue McCoist for his shortcomings (and rightly so to some extent) but that you continually make excuses for Green. I have been quick in the past to accuse the press of being unfair and persecuting Rangers. In this instance, thank God for Peter Smith. He is doing the job of a good investigative journalist without favour or prejudice. I am on no bandwagon. We need to know the whole truth, no matter how unpalatable that may be. How is my head in the sand? Have I said Green is perfect? Have I said he shouldn't be criticised? Have I said questions and clarity shouldn't be seeked? No, so you're basically saying unless you want Green's head on a platter then you're head is in the sand. If i'm more crititcal of McCoist it's because he is never exactly lacking in support, and i've actually bit my tongue a bit on some of his interviews about how brilliant a point against Stirling is. The situation seems fairly clear to me, if Whyte has anything that indicates any sort of collusion after this CVA period then I will probably think there's some wider truth being hidden, but we all surely knew Whyte wouldn't have given up his shares out of kindness so none of it seems as shocking to me as is getting made out. I'm over using these type of phrases lately but I just feel balance and middle ground is being missed out. Calling for Green to leave is basically saying that's it decided 100%, he is beyond redemption etc etc, which I think is unfair with all the good he has done this club. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,079 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Green, Ahmad and Stockbridge are basically dead men walking as far as Rangers are concerned. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Green, Ahmad and Stockbridge are basically dead men walking as far as Rangers are concerned. You hope that is. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,079 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 You hope that is. It's the reality of the situation. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 It's the reality of the situation. Some fans bleating their eyes does not make them dead men. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,210 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I think all three will be in difficult positions actually. But the mechanics of the Rangers board (and beneficial owner) are still difficult to interpret. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,079 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Some fans bleating their eyes does not make them dead men. You really need to open your eyes to the bigger picture it's way past fans bleating. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 You really need to open your eyes to the bigger picture it's way past fans bleating. We're not exactly hearing news of an EGM being called... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,079 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 We're not exactly hearing news of an EGM being called... It is not necessary to call an EGM. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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