hypothetical question

[Gribz 966]

I beg to differ. You're all talking (albeit hypothetically) about knocking back the chance to increase our incoming revenue by millions of pounds over the next couple of seasons so that we can give the SPL the finger and let them suffer financially without us, but there's a better way to make them suffer. Get back up as quickly as possible, get stronger as quickly as possible, win the 1st or 2nd place prize money as quickly as possible, start knocking them out of cups as quickly as possible, start taking only a small number of fans (compared to the past) to their stadiums for away games as quickly as possible and the list goes on....

 

We shouldn't be naive about how much a couple of million in extra revenue means to the club and the new owners and what Charles Green & co will be prepared to do to get it. They're already in the process of selling the stadium name to Sports Direct for what will undoubtedly be significantly less money than an immediate return to the top flight would generate.

 

But do you genuinely feel we'd start winning things straight away mate? As it stands I think we'd have an poor first season where we'd get beat quite a lot. Even in the SPL last season when going into Admin I thought it would rally us but we lost at home to Hearts and Inverness didnt we? Combined with the team we have and lack of confidence in Ally at top flight id see us having 2 years of finishing around 4th. Financially I dont think we'd be near the CL group stages so income wise we'd be relying on Europa League and again I dont think we'd make the group stages for at least 2 seasons.

Where as getting there through the leagues and building up a head of steam would fit the timing just right.

 

We werent ready for Div 3 at the start of the season and we're not ready for SPL this summer. 2nd season in a row where we dont know where or who we are playing! How can we prepare for that?

 

My reasons for rejecting isnt to give them the middle finger its every bit as much down to fact we arent ready and sporting intergrity. We opted for Div 3 last season, 80% of fans were for it and that means Div 2 next season and I say we continue that. As I previously said had the reason for returning to the SPL been on genuine reasons and was on the cards earlier then yes Id go.

 

If we want to increase revenue by much higher amounts then we should push on with the move to England.

Edited March 16, 2013 by Gribz

[UCF2008 0]

But do you genuinely feel we'd start winning things straight away mate? As it stands I think we'd have an poor first season where we'd get beat quite a lot. Even in the SPL last season when going into Admin I thought it would rally us but we lost at home to Hearts and Inverness didnt we? Combined with the team we have and lack of confidence in Ally at top flight id see us having 2 years of finishing around 4th. Financially I dont think we'd be near the CL group stages so income wise we'd be relying on Europa League and again I dont think we'd make the group stages for at least 2 seasons.

Where as getting there through the leagues and building up a head of steam would fit the timing just right.

 

We werent ready for Div 3 at the start of the season and we're not ready for SPL this summer. 2nd season in a row where we dont know where or who we are playing! How can we prepare for that?

 

My reasons for rejecting isnt to give them the middle finger its every bit as much down to fact we arent ready and sporting intergrity. We opted for Div 3 last season, 80% of fans were for it and that means Div 2 next season and I say we continue that. As I previously said had the reason for returning to the SPL been on genuine reasons and was on the cards earlier then yes Id go.

 

If we want to increase revenue by much higher amounts then we should push on with the move to England.

 

What if Div2 is the bottom tier next season though? What about the current Div2 clubs we'd be leapfrogging to take a place in the championship? Would it be OK if they said it was for 'Sporting Merit' like they did with Fiorentina?

 

I'm with you on England btw and have been since day one. It might never happen though.

[Gribz 966]

What if Div2 is the bottom tier next season though? What about the current Div2 clubs we'd be leapfrogging to take a place in the championship? Would it be OK if they said it was for 'Sporting Merit' like they did with Fiorentina?

 

I'm with you on England btw and have been since day one. It might never happen though.

 

The full restructure is a mess. Weeks ago I suggested if they want 12-12-18 they have to from current set up to a 16-10-16 system for 1 season to make it fair for promotion and relegation purposes then play for the 12-12-18. Its shambolic.

 

If they go with what the public want 18-12-12 then none of it matters, we go into the middle tier of 12. How on earth they will push it through for this summer is beyond me, they have to put a plan on the table at the start of a season so all teams know what is at stake.

[Zappa 0]

But do you genuinely feel we'd start winning things straight away mate? As it stands I think we'd have an poor first season where we'd get beat quite a lot. Even in the SPL last season when going into Admin I thought it would rally us but we lost at home to Hearts and Inverness didnt we? Combined with the team we have and lack of confidence in Ally at top flight id see us having 2 years of finishing around 4th. Financially I dont think we'd be near the CL group stages so income wise we'd be relying on Europa League and again I dont think we'd make the group stages for at least 2 seasons.

Where as getting there through the leagues and building up a head of steam would fit the timing just right.

 

We werent ready for Div 3 at the start of the season and we're not ready for SPL this summer. 2nd season in a row where we dont know where or who we are playing! How can we prepare for that?

 

My reasons for rejecting isnt to give them the middle finger its every bit as much down to fact we arent ready and sporting intergrity. We opted for Div 3 last season, 80% of fans were for it and that means Div 2 next season and I say we continue that. As I previously said had the reason for returning to the SPL been on genuine reasons and was on the cards earlier then yes Id go.

 

We're just on completely different pages with our thinking on this mate. Of course there's very little chance we'd win much (if anything) straight away if we were to return to the top flight next season, but I doubt if we will after taking the scenic route and not returning for another couple of years either. The quickest way for us to start winning things in the top flight again (including the title) would be an immediate return if it was offered because the extra revenue brought in would allow us to strengthen the squad. It could take us two full seasons of rebuilding and regrouping whilst IN the top flight before we can mount a serious title challenge, but it's quite likely to be exactly the same if we take the scenic route and battle our way back to the top through the leagues. The bottom line is that I just don't see any valid reasons for refusing an invitation to return to the top flight immediately if one were offered, but it's probably a moot point anyway as it's unlikely we'll get such an offer. There's people in the top flight who would cut off their own blood supply if it would hurt or hinder Rangers.