Gribz 919 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) I 100% admire what the OP is trying to get across, but if you think about it closely, it's a more complex matter.Singing the National Anthem, supporting our troops, honouring Remembrance Day even flying the Union Jack: These things are essentially political - but I, for one, don't want them to stop. Some might say it's blindly patriotic and jingoistic and I don't really have a counter-argument to that. But I still want it to continue - they're all positive things in my eyes and they make me proud of my club. Fair point for you personnally although Rangers still dont have anything to do with any illegal wars the troops are forced into. But I remember sitting in the away end at Tannadice with a group of 6 or 7 neds infront of me. They were honking of cheap drink and could barely stand and just attempted to sing GSTQ / RB etc for 90 mins whilst trying to wind up home fans. Nothing patriotic or political about it, it was just idiocracy. If 1 of them starting to sing "My wife is a cheap slut" the next one would have joined in. RB is a cracking song but its place is at the royal albert hall on the last night of the proms. Edited February 25, 2013 by Gribz 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I generally agree but I do draw the line at not singing something like out national anthem, we pride ourselves on a British identity and nobody can be realistically offended by it. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 919 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I generally agree but I do draw the line at not singing something like out national anthem, we pride ourselves on a British identity and nobody can be realistically offended by it. And that opens a new can of worms straight away and again brings the social devide into play due to having 2 national anthems. If GSTQ is blast out from the Rangers end it gets booed (ironically by other British people) yet Flower of Scotland would get booed when sang from others fans. I have no problem with the anthem before a cup final or the like but there is no doubt fans from both ends sing either anthem just to wind up opposition. My view is both GSTQ and FoS are both dour and boring and probably the worst national anthems out there. Always though Scotland the brave was better for Scotland and maybe RB or Land of hope and glory for UK. PS - It must be good being French with a bouncy anthem like theirs. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Fair point for you personnally although Rangers still dont have anything to do with any illegal wars the troops are forced into. They're not forced into anything. If they take part in illegal wars, it's entirely their decision to do so. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 919 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 They're not forced into anything. If they take part in illegal wars, it's entirely their decision to do so. Its a bit more tricky when they have been brainwashed into thinking they are doing it for their own, their family and the country's freedom. If they knew the real reason that it was to satisfy the need for greed of the ruling class then Im sure they would take a back step. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueflag 386 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Its a bit more tricky when they have been brainwashed into thinking they are doing it for their own, their family and the country's freedom. If they knew the real reason that it was to satisfy the need for greed of the ruling class then Im sure they would take a back step. a very much personal thought . keep the conspiricy shit in another thread Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza_8 233 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 You're being obtuse. You call him obtuse I'd call him something else! And BD, if you're insulted by someone saying you're deliberately ignoring or twisting points then you're a poor wee soul! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 919 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 a very much personal thought .keep the conspiricy shit in another thread Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Sure, Id welcome you to a debate in the 'shit' thread that exists there. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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