Green - Choose Me Or Murray

[stewarty 1,953]

in what way?

 

 

"we got back playing football because green was not man enough to stand up against a conspiracy from the footballing authorities"

 

Not man enough to stand up to the footballing authorities? Have you been in hibernation for the last year?

 

Also, see STB's reply.

[kuznetsov 0]

We've hardly ever heard from Murray?

 

quality > quantity

 

always.

[kuznetsov 0]

"we got back playing football because green was not man enough to stand up against a conspiracy from the footballing authorities"

 

Not man enough to stand up to the footballing authorities? Have you been in hibernation for the last year?

 

Also, see STB's reply.

 

no. not that that has anything to do with what happened. we surrendered to them. plain and simple.

[the gunslinger 3,366]

I liked Malcolm from the off but I see no reason to believe he's in the right here.

[the gunslinger 3,366]

or the wrong for that matter.

[simplythebest 0]

I liked Malcolm from the off but I see no reason to believe he's in the right here.

 

Agreed, it could be as simple as a clash of personalities, or maybe Malcolm thinks we should change manager.

 

If it's something more serious like Murray believing the way the club is being run is dangerous, then the onus is on him to come out and tell the fans that. Otherwise it won't concern we much.

[stewarty 1,953]

no. not that that has anything to do with what happened. we surrendered to them. plain and simple.

 

I wish life was a simple as your views seem to suggest it is.

 

From the club statement on 27 July:

 

RANGERS chairman Malcolm Murray and Chief Executive Charles Green have today given their reaction to the club being granted SFA membership.

Malcolm Murray, Chairman of The Rangers Football Club, said, "The Club has finally been granted SFA membership which means we can now move forward and focus on the future.

 

"This is a new beginning for Rangers and its supporters. We have a difficult but exciting journey ahead and we want fans to enjoy watching their team play again at Ibrox and on our travels.

 

"The Club and supporters have the chance to make new friends throughout our journey and at all times we will strive to maintain the highest possible standards for this great institution.

 

"Rangers fans around the world have been tremendous in their support for the Club over the last six months - through what has been an horrendous period in our history.

 

"We still have outstanding issues with the SPL but we will challenge them at every turn.

"Supporters have been badly bruised by recent events but Rangers has survived and I believe the fans will now rally behind the Manager and Club and stay with us through this rebuilding process.

 

"The football landscape is changing, not just here in Scotland but across Europe. With the exception of a few, clubs cannot run with huge debt burdens and there will undoubtedly be many more casualties in the coming years. Rangers was a casualty but now we are debt-free and can rebuild.

 

"As a lifelong Rangers fan, I am relieved that we are finally at the point where we can move forward and focus on football again. Our journey back to the top is only achievable with the support of our loyal fanbase and we will rise again with their help.

 

"Starting again in Division 3 is what our fans wanted and I look forward to seeing them back at Ibrox for our first game against East Fife and at many matches throughout the season."

 

"This is still Rangers and the next chapter of our history has the potential to be one of the greatest stories in the history of sport. The Rangers revival begins now and I, for one, am looking forward to the journey."

 

Charles Green, Chief Executive of The Rangers Football Club, said: "We have signed an agreement today that allows Rangers to be granted membership by the SFA.

 

"In reaching the agreement, the Board has had to take some very difficult decisions to gain SFA membership, including accepting the delayed transfer ban and paying outstanding financial penalties, but we are now able to get back to playing football and plan for the new season.

 

"The agreement enables the Club to move forward but there remains an outstanding issue with the SPL regarding EBTs. As we have proved in the last couple of months, we will stand up to any challenges that face Rangers and will continue to fight for the Club's best interests.

 

"We owe that to all the fans who have supported Rangers through the most tumultuous period in the Club's history.

"This is the point where our task of rebuilding the Club from Division 3 starts. We have a long road ahead and clearly the transfer ban makes our job even harder but every one of us involved in taking the Club forward is committed to the task and we will not falter in our commitment.

 

"There will undoubtedly be difficult times ahead but we have a consortium of investors who are in this for the long haul and are excited about being part of the journey to rebuild this great Club.

 

"It is my job, and that of the board, to ensure Rangers emerges stronger and financially fitter and I am confident we can achieve this.

 

"As the Chairman said, this is a new beginning for the Club. Supporters and everyone connected to Rangers have the chance to be part of something special over the next few years."

 

 

Now, if this is lying down and surrendering; and given the club's numerous statements on reconstruction and other matters; my only conclusion is that you are revising history to suit your negative views of Green [Your choice]; or you have been hibernating for the last year.

Edited February 19, 2013 by stewarty

[kuznetsov 0]

Agreed, it could be as simple as a clash of personalities, or maybe Malcolm thinks we should change manager.

 

If it's something more serious like Murray believing the way the club is being run is dangerous, then the onus is on him to come out and tell the fans that. Otherwise it won't concern we much.

 

i agree with that though i doubt its as simple as a clash of personalities. i think the manager thing may be the other way around. i think it may be green wanting ally out and murray supporting his idol and friend.

Edited February 19, 2013 by kuznetsov

[kuznetsov 0]

I wish life was a simple as your views seem to suggest it is.

 

From the club statement on 27 July:

 

[RANGERS chairman Malcolm Murray and Chief Executive Charles Green have today given their reaction to the club being granted SFA membership.

Malcolm Murray, Chairman of The Rangers Football Club, said, "The Club has finally been granted SFA membership which means we can now move forward and focus on the future.

 

"This is a new beginning for Rangers and its supporters. We have a difficult but exciting journey ahead and we want fans to enjoy watching their team play again at Ibrox and on our travels.

 

"The Club and supporters have the chance to make new friends throughout our journey and at all times we will strive to maintain the highest possible standards for this great institution.

 

"Rangers fans around the world have been tremendous in their support for the Club over the last six months - through what has been an horrendous period in our history.

 

"We still have outstanding issues with the SPL but we will challenge them at every turn.

"Supporters have been badly bruised by recent events but Rangers has survived and I believe the fans will now rally behind the Manager and Club and stay with us through this rebuilding process.

 

"The football landscape is changing, not just here in Scotland but across Europe. With the exception of a few, clubs cannot run with huge debt burdens and there will undoubtedly be many more casualties in the coming years. Rangers was a casualty but now we are debt-free and can rebuild.

 

"As a lifelong Rangers fan, I am relieved that we are finally at the point where we can move forward and focus on football again. Our journey back to the top is only achievable with the support of our loyal fanbase and we will rise again with their help.

 

"Starting again in Division 3 is what our fans wanted and I look forward to seeing them back at Ibrox for our first game against East Fife and at many matches throughout the season."

 

"This is still Rangers and the next chapter of our history has the potential to be one of the greatest stories in the history of sport. The Rangers revival begins now and I, for one, am looking forward to the journey."

 

Charles Green, Chief Executive of The Rangers Football Club, said: "We have signed an agreement today that allows Rangers to be granted membership by the SFA.

 

"In reaching the agreement, the Board has had to take some very difficult decisions to gain SFA membership, including accepting the delayed transfer ban and paying outstanding financial penalties, but we are now able to get back to playing football and plan for the new season.

 

"The agreement enables the Club to move forward but there remains an outstanding issue with the SPL regarding EBTs. As we have proved in the last couple of months, we will stand up to any challenges that face Rangers and will continue to fight for the Club's best interests.

 

"We owe that to all the fans who have supported Rangers through the most tumultuous period in the Club's history.

"This is the point where our task of rebuilding the Club from Division 3 starts. We have a long road ahead and clearly the transfer ban makes our job even harder but every one of us involved in taking the Club forward is committed to the task and we will not falter in our commitment.

 

"There will undoubtedly be difficult times ahead but we have a consortium of investors who are in this for the long haul and are excited about being part of the journey to rebuild this great Club.

 

"It is my job, and that of the board, to ensure Rangers emerges stronger and financially fitter and I am confident we can achieve this.

 

"As the Chairman said, this is a new beginning for the Club. Supporters and everyone connected to Rangers have the chance to be part of something special over the next few years."

 

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Now, if this is lying down and surrendering; and given the club's numerous statements on reconstruction and other matters; my only conclusion is that you are revising history to suit your negative views of Green [Your choice]; or you have been hibernating for the last year.

 

are we talking about different things here? i am on about us "allegedly" being blackmailed into accepting the transfer embargo to get our licence. i dont have a problem being demoted to division 3, i supported that.

 

no revisionism and no hibernation, just reality.

[stewarty 1,953]

Okay. So what was all the chat about Green being a shyster and having surrendered about then?

 

Seems to me that the club took a very difficult decision in the interests of getting back to playing football. The statement makes clear they were not happy with a number of things, and given it really was at the last minute as well as the way the club has stood it's ground on a number of matters since, I'm just not sure why you said what you did.