chilledbear 16 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Before too long it will be fact......Rangers had a minutes applause for Bobby Shearer because they couldn't trust their fans to keep a minutes silence.......FACT. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmck 117 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Before too long it will be fact......Rangers had a minutes applause for Bobby Shearer because they couldn't trust their fans to keep a minutes silence.......FACT. so true. even our own fans believe this! sad days. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Barry and chilled bear, I think you missed my point completely. I think a minutes silence OR applause are BOTH reasonably appropriate for Bobby Shearer. It's reasonably arbitrary which one you pick. Thinking logically, my own PERSONAL conclusion is that the applause is slightly more appropriate for an entertainer without a tragic death. However, the thing that I believe is WRONG is using the fact we have a silence for 1.1M young soldiers killed tragically in the world wars while defending their country, as a reason that an old man who died of natural causes should have the same - and only because he played football for Rangers for a short part of his long life. I'm not arguing that he shouldn't have the same, I'm arguing against the reasoning. If that's being self righteous then shoot me (by the way that's a cheap shot to use against any moral argument, like shooting the messenger). If you want to argue that we should do it as we've done it for other players, then THAT is a valid argument, if tempered by the fact that we don't always have to do the same thing forever. I think if I die of natural causes at a decent age, I'd rather be applauded than have a silence and if Shearer’s family did indeed choose this for him, then I can highly empathise with their wishes. The decision may or may not be due to not trusting the fans but as there are other valid reasons it's hard to be conclusive. Besides, even though Rangers fans have an impeccable record for silences, it only takes a couple of idiots in the home or away end to spoil it. Would you rather have your remembrance as a tumultuous applause or a dignified silence that is interrupted by a numpty and the resultant boos? But the disappointing thing is that the whole thing has already lost a bit of dignity to me due to people complaining about the applause and using it as a stick to beat Celtic fans and other enemies of Rangers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmck 117 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Barry and chilled bear, I think you missed my point completely. I think a minutes silence OR applause are BOTH reasonably appropriate for Bobby Shearer. It's reasonably arbitrary which one you pick. Thinking logically, my own PERSONAL conclusion is that the applause is slightly more appropriate for an entertainer without a tragic death. ah right. get you now. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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