UCF2008 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 According to some at the SPL meeting today Mr Murray apparently blew it big time. Rangers hopes of reprieve in SPL vote sunk by 'arrogant' Malcolm Murray - Roddy Forsyth A presentation by the Rangers chairman, Malcolm Murray â?? described as â??a disgraceâ? by one of those present â?? sank the last hopes of the newco club making a return to the Scottish Premier League at Hampden Park on Wednesday. The expectation beforehand within the SPL â?? shared by the Scottish Football Association â?? was that the outcome would be another deferral, leaving it to the Scottish Football League clubs to accept Rangers into their ranks and sparing the top division chairmen from a decision they did not want to make. There were also some who hoped that Rangers would be able to make sufficient case â?? coupled with a clear and evident change of attitude â?? for their admission to the SPL. However â?? and not for the first time in this saga â?? Rangers utterly misread the mood of the other SPL clubs. The faux pas occurred despite the fact that Rangers had been briefed at a meeting on Sunday attended by two other SPL chairmen and a vice-chairman, who stressed the need for humility. Murray, in blazer and club tie, arrived at the gathering on Wednesday with the frontman for the Sevco consortium, Charles Green â?? who did not sport the clubâ??s uniform â?? and Ally McCoist, the Ibrox manager. A presentation brochure was distributed to the delegates. The back page featured a photograph of a Rangers title win with the words â??We Are Rangersâ? emblazoned across it. â??The arrogance was unbelievable,â? said one chairman. â??The atmosphere hardened immediately. Charles Green conducted himself well enough but the Rangers chairman was arrogant and dogmatic.â? Another who was present told The Daily Telegraph: â??Some people in the room wanted a reason to make a case for Rangers but the standard of the presentation was woeful. â??Ally and Charles Green were not always on the same page but that was not damaging. The chairman was another matter entirely and the brochure was substandard â?? you could have easily knocked something better together given half an hour. It makes you wonder what kind of management team they have.â? Murray, Green and McCoist absented themselves from the meeting to allow discussion, then returned for the vote and cast theirs as a proxy for Duff & Phelps, administrators of the Rangers oldco. Only Michael Johnston of Kilmarnock gave them any sort of support with an abstention, while the other 10 clubs â?? including those who had expressed a degree of willingness to help Rangers, voted â??Noâ?? to the newcoâ??s admission. The Rangers party departed and a further two-hour discussion ensued. â??It was constructive,â? said one who took part. â??People actually listened to one another and respected the other positions. It was a huge leap of faith for integrity and itâ??s now up to the SFA and SFL to make their decision.â? Neil Doncaster, the SPL chief executive, said of the decision to refuse the newco entry: â??Clearly there were discussions going on between the newco and the members and ultimately that could have led to a presentation and a proposal put to clubs that they might have said yes to. â??In the end the proposal put forward to the clubs was considered and they said no.â? He added: â??I think [the vote] surprised a number of people. Money is important in professional football and I think what our chairmen have done today is put aside the short-term commercial considerations, that would ordinarily drive behaviour, ahead of the longer-term interests of their clubs â?? and supporter involvement has clearly been a huge part of that. â??Ultimately they believe they have made the right decision and one that brings a bit more clarity to an unclear world. Until we know where Rangers are playing next year we wonâ??t be able to ascertain what the damage is to the Scottish game. â??A number of people have said the decision today has enhanced the reputation of the league but itâ??s not for me to say.â? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Anyone seriously going to take the word of these people? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,114 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 He came across better at the RSC meeting than I thought he would, the SPL cowards are just looking for a scapegoat. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF2008 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Anyone seriously going to take the word of these people? Who? Roddy Forsyth or the unnamed chairmen? Personally I can quite easily see it to be the truth. Whether it was a deciding factor or not is another story entirely, but anyone who caught Mr Murray's first interview on RTV before it was edited might agree that he does have a certain character to him to accompany the foot and mouth syndrome. Charles Green might well bore you to tears while fitting in random nonsensical metaphors and anecdotes given half a chance, but the impression I've got so far is that he's like Bambi compared to this guy. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Who? Roddy Forsyth or the unnamed chairmen? Personally I can quite easily see it to be the truth. Whether it was a deciding factor or not is another story entirely, but anyone who caught Mr Murray's first interview on RST before it was edited might agree that he does have a certain character to him to accompany the foot and mouth syndrome. Charles Green might well bore you to tears while fitting in random nonsensical metaphors and anecdotes given half a chance, but the impression I've got so far is that he's like Bambi compared to this guy. It was no factor at all, never mind a deciding one. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 He came across better at the RSC meeting than I thought he would, the SPL cowards are just looking for a scapegoat. came accross as quite bullish on the BBC but I liked him. agreed the spl cowards are trying to blame big bad rangers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF2008 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 All I'm saying is that if you picture all the SPL chairmen in that meeting. They might not all be best pals, but they all know one another. Then in walks the new guy and comes across as a bit of an arsehole. It's not going to do us any favors. Like I said it's probably not going to have been decisive in this case, but I just hope we don't have to give any more presentations at the SFL meeting. That one could after all be determining the very survival of our club. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF2008 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 came accross as quite bullish on the BBC but I liked him. agreed the spl cowards are trying to blame big bad rangers. Have to agree and I think he has come across quite well in his interviews since that initial one. Well rehearsed in his responses at least. Nothing like that initial introductory interview. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 All I'm saying is that if you picture all the SPL chairmen in that meeting. They might not all be best pals, but they all know one another. Then in walks the new guy and comes across as a bit of an arsehole. It's not going to do us any favors. Like I said it's probably not going to have been decisive in this case, but I just hope we don't have to give any more presentations at the SFL meeting. That one could after all be determining the very survival of our club. Malcolm Murray also gave them all the apology they've so badly wanted. This is bs. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF2008 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Malcolm Murray also gave them all the apology they've so badly wanted. This is bs. The apology was BS. About as insincere as it deserved to be. Do you think that apology was what they wanted? Why would they want to hear a public apology from Malcolm Murray? Why would Malcolm Murray think an apology was even due from himself or any of the Sevco consortium? Because Bomber said so? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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