Tannochsidebear 2,322 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Well this has all really come out of the blue and makes a lot of us need to pause for a re-think. We have been told by every authority going that Rangers are not a special case and cannot be treated as such. in other words, the old "sporting integrity" line. After months of fighting a losing battle to get the rest of football to realise we were the innocent parties in a fradulent action by a crook at the bank and a crook of an owner, an action which has recently become the subject of an official investigation, our fans finally seemed to accept defeat and that we would need to adhere to the rules in place and start again at the bottom of the professional football ladder in Division 3. Our acceptance of this must have come as a total surprise to our enemies who probably never believed they would get this kind of result in their wildest dreams. It has meant that a major u-turn is now the order of the day, with the financial realities that they cannot live without our country's biggest and best club at the top of the food chain now hitting home, no doubt via club accountants and bank managers. Indeed, turkey's have never voted for Christmas, and it seems the other clubs have woken up from their envy-driven campaign to have us removed from football just in the nick of time to see they themselves would die if they see it through. It is now we should be jumping on the offensive IMO. Announce now that the deal being offered is now off the table and we will look to the SFL to allow us into Division 3 in time for the new season, unless our SPL share is transferred to our new corporate entity and our place in the SPL is accepted as before WITHOUT any further sanctions. We have been punished enough with the points deduction, loss of players, loss of a major slice of our income with the 3 year Euro exile and there is no doubt we will struggle to get ourselves financially viable over the next few seasons and therefore will probably not be as competitive as we would like to be. We say to the rest of Scottish football, no more. The line in the sand is drawn. You know how much Rangers bring into the game in this country, which subsidises the other clubs enormously. Either we stay in a fair and competitive league and you all stay solvent, or we go to Division 3 and you all can go to hell. If your lucky we will see you again in 3 years time if you have managed to survive. To hell with pandering to these hate-driven scumbags who think we owe them a living. If they open the door just a little and see a chink of light, we should batter down the door. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,399 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) It is all like blaming the ship and its passengers for the wrecking of the Costa Concordia and the bad publicity it brought to the Cruiser Company. And now the retrieving company's captain shall apoplogize to the Cruiser Line too? Yes, that makes sense. Edited July 3, 2012 by der Berliner 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinker 887 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 It is all like blaming the ship and its passengers for the wrecking of the Costa Concordia and the bad publicity it brought to the Cruiser Company. And now the retrieving compnay's captain shall apoploigize to the Cruiser Line too? Yes, that makes sense. Slightly away from the point of the topic, but I really don't like this analogy as it equates Rangers to a sunken ship. We're still afloat! We just got bought by another shipping company Seriously though, you have to be careful with metaphors like this as it's the kind of thing our detractors pounce on! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amms 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 @Tannochsidebear, that's only going to happen if you believe any of that article is true. It's pure PR in my opinion, designed to plant seeds of doubt in other clubs, or conversely to ensure the supporters of those clubs rise up once again and ensure their clubs vote no if they were indeed wavering. I'm still not sure what our current owners grand design is and so which result will suit them best on this. There is no way the directors of the clubs that have already publicly stated they'll vote 'no' are going to change their mind now. What little credibility they have left will disappear entirely. As was raised in the Clyde statement don't be surprised to see an amnesty on clubs going into administration next season. Whatever the purpose of that article it is only muddying waters that are already quite clear; we aren't going to play in the SPL this coming season no matter what. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 To speak with forlanssister's words: Not from "Black Jack's/Media Houses organ of preference" comes this: As I said above, he cannot agree to illegal stuff, e.g. payment of football debts. Which has been explained at lengths. ha can and will. gleefully if given the chance. afterall he's only looking short term. mind you it would greatly dent his credibility. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aftershock 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 While I really hope that we stay in the SPL WITHOUT sanctions as Tannochsidebear said, I fear Green may agree to anything to keep us there, as that would make us a whole lot more valuable. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascender 352 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I've got a healthy skepticism about that article, but remember, Green is in it for the money and whether he operates us as a going concern or wants a quick sell, the balance sheet is going to look a lot healthier if we're in the SPL rather than division 3. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I think whoever the owner, they would have to take decisions which the fans might not like. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgacus 8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I am not sure how the balance sheet will be healthier if we are in the SPL with sanctions. If we accept the registration embargo and points deductions (possibly for more than one season) we will struggle and it's not inconceivable that we might get relegated - that would have an adverse affect on the clubs value. As it happens I think the SPL no votes has backed themselves into a corner and it would be impossible for them to change their minds at this late stage. They knew what the financial numbers were when they made up their minds in the first place, they would just look stupid if they went back on that decision now. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foggy dewhurst 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Well this has all really come out of the blue and makes a lot of us need to pause for a re-think. We have been told by every authority going that Rangers are not a special case and cannot be treated as such. in other words, the old "sporting integrity" line. After months of fighting a losing battle to get the rest of football to realise we were the innocent parties in a fradulent action by a crook at the bank and a crook of an owner, an action which has recently become the subject of an official investigation, our fans finally seemed to accept defeat and that we would need to adhere to the rules in place and start again at the bottom of the professional football ladder in Division 3. Our acceptance of this must have come as a total surprise to our enemies who probably never believed they would get this kind of result in their wildest dreams. It has meant that a major u-turn is now the order of the day, with the financial realities that they cannot live without our country's biggest and best club at the top of the food chain now hitting home, no doubt via club accountants and bank managers. Indeed, turkey's have never voted for Christmas, and it seems the other clubs have woken up from their envy-driven campaign to have us removed from football just in the nick of time to see they themselves would die if they see it through. It is now we should be jumping on the offensive IMO. Announce now that the deal being offered is now off the table and we will look to the SFL to allow us into Division 3 in time for the new season, unless our SPL share is transferred to our new corporate entity and our place in the SPL is accepted as before WITHOUT any further sanctions. We have been punished enough with the points deduction, loss of players, loss of a major slice of our income with the 3 year Euro exile and there is no doubt we will struggle to get ourselves financially viable over the next few seasons and therefore will probably not be as competitive as we would like to be. We say to the rest of Scottish football, no more. The line in the sand is drawn. You know how much Rangers bring into the game in this country, which subsidises the other clubs enormously. Either we stay in a fair and competitive league and you all stay solvent, or we go to Division 3 and you all can go to hell. If your lucky we will see you again in 3 years time if you have managed to survive. To hell with pandering to these hate-driven scumbags who think we owe them a living. If they open the door just a little and see a chink of light, we should batter down the door. old foggy could not have put it better well said lad . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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