CumbernauldGers 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 its their record of finding buyers with actual cash I question. so far they have found 0 Ha ha do you included TBK then in that? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 As I've already said, I haven't seen or heard a single thing from Green that makes me think I should just blindly hope for the best and give him a chance and how do you know there isn't a decent (or better) alternative? Regardless of what he says or does? I'm not impressed with him because of what he's said! Howard Kendall's comments and opinion are no reason at all to trust Green in my opinion. Howard Kendall is a notorious drunk and his main reason for having good things to say about Green is that Green and the board at Sheffield allowed him to spend big money on players. Is guilty until proven innocent really a fair way to treat him? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Administrators duty bound by the courts to accept the best offer for the creditors. If you can't accept their judgement then it really is a case of you refusing to trust anyone. It's not that I refuse to trust anyone, more that I'm finding it extremely difficult to trust anyone involved in the mess our club are in and Duff & Phelps are neck deep in it. I'm far from being alone with that viewpoint either. I never for one minute trusted Craig Whyte and he's the one who not only chose Duff & Phelps as our administrators, but apparently pre-planned our administration with them, possibly even before he took over. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 It's not that I refuse to trust anyone, more that I'm finding it extremely difficult to trust anyone involved in the mess our club are in and Duff & Phelps are neck deep in it. I'm far from being alone with that viewpoint either. I never for one minute trusted Craig Whyte and he's the one who not only chose Duff & Phelps as our administrators, but apparently pre-planned our administration with them, possibly even before he took over. Administrators are brought in to try and clean up the mess, they don't create it. Duff and Phelps would have been forcibly removed by now if these dodgy dealings are as obvious as many fans seem to believe. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I just wonder how much humble pie will be eaten should the CVA come off ... and how much rejoice some of the Green and D&P detractors will spread all over the place should it not. Regarding your first point, most people here including myself are perfectly willing to hold our hands up and say we were wrong when we do get things wrong. These things we're discussing aren't about petty point scoring and although I'm not personally bothered by you or anyone else suggesting otherwise, I do think it's quite disingenuous to do so. Regarding your second point, I don't think anyone here will be rejoicing should the CVA be rejected, although given the content of the CVA, what it's worth to the creditors and the mistakes in it, I'm sure it won't come as a huge surprise to some of us if it's rejected. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ha ha do you included TBK then in that? I maintain they are the only real bidders with perhaps ng as a possibility. green would be real if he could sell his plan to anyone. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Is guilty until proven innocent really a fair way to treat him? I don't think that's what I'm doing, but I'm also not doing the opposite when it comes to something so important. The vast majority of fans were more than willing to treat Craig Whyte as innocent until proven guilty. Even when the bare-faced lies started mounting up and the tide of opinion was turning against him, many were still willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully people will have learned a valuable lesson from that, although please don't get me wrong here because I'm certainly not suggesting that Green and his consortium are another Whyte scenario looming ever closer. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I don't think that's what I'm doing, but I'm also not doing the opposite when it comes to something so important. The vast majority of fans were more than willing to treat Craig Whyte as innocent until proven guilty. Even when the bare-faced lies started mounting up and the tide of opinion was turning against him, many were still willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully people will have learned a valuable lesson from that, although please don't get me wrong here because I'm certainly not suggesting that Green and his consortium are another Whyte scenario looming ever closer. Craig Whyte was just the final chapter of Murray's destruction, hence why he sold to him without a care in the world. There's really not much if any damage left to be done by someone else. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Duff and Phelps would have been forcibly removed by now if these dodgy dealings are as obvious as many fans seem to believe. It's about evidence or the lack of it. All that's really there is a very strong suggestion that Duff & Phelps have a conflict of interest in this administration process. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 It's about evidence or the lack of it. All that's really there is a very strong suggestion that Duff & Phelps have a conflict of interest in this administration process. Yet as far as we know none of the claims have been enough for a creditor to demand their removal etc. I realise you can't know anything for absolute sure, but in that same way we don't know that Alex Salmond or David Cameron aren't involved in an attempt to kill us. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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